I'd like to take the liberty of speaking up, as the subjects are going in all directions and I've (finally) been quoted.

I'd like to respond for all to see, for those who have time to waste. Let everyone make up their own minds about the actions of the CPs.

I want to play clean and I believe I'm part of an agreement that is clean too, despite the members who have been trying to spread rumours with innuendo on every Vfo topic for the past few weeks.

Virtuafoot becomes Virtuatribunal 😍

Of course, with the rumours that had been circulating for several weeks, I had been warned that I was the number one accused in this story. I was very serene, and I waited patiently for the whole thing to blow up and for the crusading cartel to end up naming me...

So let's go and explain to the enraged (who in any case will never change their minds because the CP must be brought down at all costs)

• Day 1 of the season and the vile Deck has 32 players (not a flaw, I hope?) And I've got 3 young players coming back on loan, a last-minute contingency but no big deal, I'm managing as best I can.

image](https://i.imgur.com/WhWB8Wj.jpeg)

In the screen above you can see that Will, a young CP club with whom I had 3 young players on loan and who had told me to extend them, has changed his mind (unfortunately I no longer have his message in French).

As a result, these 3 youngsters (Petit, Polgar and Zonta) aren't going to do the training course with their trainer and I don't have any more room at home. It pisses me off...

The genius that I am decides to lend (sacrifice) 3 old guys, Hardie 32 years old who I use very little, Molina 33 years old, who I use even less, and Rezzak 33 years old in regression who is nearing death.

I don't think it's a big deal that these 3 won't have a training period and in exchange I can give 1 point to the youngsters.

Mauve offers to help me out with the 3 old guys (no playing with them, no training courses, nothing).

So I lend my 3 old guys and I call back (well, no, let's be honest, I ask the trainer, who gives me a hard time at the last minute, to cancel the loan, which proves that I'm a great optimist - I didn't even know it was possible...).

image](https://i.imgur.com/gPEmsoK.jpeg)

Once all that was done, I rushed off before the start of the cuts and started my course.

And I get a bug which means that the 3 youngsters who have come back from loan don't take the point.

image](https://i.imgur.com/NxoHZfO.jpeg)

You can see that the older players (whom I've recalled in the meantime to play in the LDC, hence the 24-hour drama) haven't had their training period with me either (and still haven't done so elsewhere!).

It pisses me off at the time, but it doesn't matter... It's not the first time I've had a bug on this course, and in the past I've been at -6 (quite an optimiser...).

And now I see that Demi has had the same bug, so when in doubt I'll post as well.
#forum?topic=168865

Finally after x time Socrate gives me a point on "Petit" and then one on "Polgar" which has just been sold.

I'm not even asking him to put it back on Zonta, who has since gone out on loan to free up a place and who no longer appears on my screen, I imagine that would involve some tedious checks and even more so once the player is out on loan. (Finally, I can see that you've managed to get back on track, so I'm going to ask for my point for Zonta as well, thanks).

And... that's it...

The funniest thing was seeing the nicknames on the vfo that were putting coins, I hope you're all sure you're clean when you come and bash people without understanding anything about the story.

Aie the CSC of the year guys...

I hate to name and shame all the LRs, but you've got 3 or 4 individuals in your ranks who are doing it the hard way, it's getting a bit tiresome, every post, every PM, every intervention with the sole and unique aim of taking offence...at what? 🤷‍♂️

Go on, enjoy your title agreement and enjoy the game a little, we understand that we won't be able to calm things down until you've brought down a CP, but that's another failure...

I've answered for myself, but if you have other targets, go ahead.

I look forward to seeing you again on VirtuaTribunal.

(No provocation here, just a defense, if admin wants to close for fear of outbursts or thinks my defense is sanctionable, I accept 🙂 )

And for my part, here is the data used by Jex in this topic #forum?topic=169253 which, according to him, highlights short term loans to optimise. I'll take the liberty of reposting his screen, which makes no sense in the analysis.

According to him, Deck made 3 short term loans (in yellow, 3 old ones, which is true), to make a profit (or else he knows full well that there was no profit, but he's deliberately truncating the information to create drama).
image](https://i.imgur.com/yU3B58g.png)

Here's the reality of the data, when you analyse it concretely, and it makes perfect sense with Deck's speech as if by magic, and above all, totally demonstrates the inconsistencies in Jex's speech:

Jex's timings are not all put together; it's clearly a piece of work done in haste without any verification on his part.
Here's a table of the players mentioned above from Deck (table 1). There are two trends:

• Short-term loans (no idea why, except potentially to free up space for emergency loan returns) which started on the 14th and were picked up on the 15th for 3 old players (see table 1), i.e. 56 and 55 days back (see table 2 for the Days ago timeframe). In addition, Deck had pointed out that 3 players returning from loan had not taken part in the Mauve endurance course, and that when they returned on the 15th, the date of Deck's course, they had not taken part. These 3 old ultra-doped players also took part in the short-term loan... +0 endurance! WOW, WHAT AN INVESTIGATION! Source : #forum?topic=168865

Proof of the dates of Mauve's events (45 days ago): #events?uid=625440
Proof of the dates of Deck's events (55 days ago): #events?uid=610688

• Long-term loans that began on 16/09 and will end shortly at the end of the 56 days, i.e. Tuesday 11. Of these, Heph and Gregou had already completed their preparatory training camp, giving them a simple +1 over last season (see Table 2). The Heph@ players took +1 40 hours ago on Saturday (as they did last season). Then there are the clubs highlighted in yellow in Table 2, i.e. Tarzouil and Pot2Colle, who held their training camp later in the season, generating a +2. Here, at the very least, we can discuss a flaw (well, the finger was pointed at short training camps, wasn't it? Strange, I don't think so, having seen the practices of some clubs that are now giving lessons!), but in this case, a large number of training clubs would be in a very bad way if we checked that not all loans over an entire season had generated a +2...

Proof of Heph@'s dates: #events?uid=282634
Proof of Gregou's dates: #events?uid=632903
Proof of Pot2Colle's dates: #events?uid=67476
Proof of Tarzouil's dates: #events?uid=664348

Table 1 (potential anomaly in the number of work placements for some young people, particularly those returning from loan cited by Deck who took -1 in relation to the table)

Table 2

As a result, we would like to remind you one last time that the rules do not authorise public denunciation, as Misha pointed out again a short while ago, and even less harassment and the propagation of fake news for defamatory purposes. Certain comments made by Marcus, Alexandre, Minadinho, Junior, Hazard or Jex in particular could therefore be reprimanded (these have been forwarded to Blue by PM for the messages in question). We are not specifically asking for sanctions, as these would only make the already tense situation worse, but only for a call for calm and an end to the propagation of fake news, and above all an end to the bashing of the CP based on totally incoherent data. If any other issues are under consideration, we'll be happy to respond and provide any clarifications we can to the Admin team (which Jex isn't, last time I checked...).

As you've taken care not to delete my username, I'm going to reply.

The first loans we found do not concern you.

Then we checked all the players and we came across yours as well as others. We've passed this on to the admins.

At no point did I mention you or any of the others.

I posted because there's a real loophole that can cause a player's stamina to reach 50 quite quickly. It would be good if the Mdj could quickly correct it.

Sans deck t'es un vilain garçon 🤭🤭🤑🤑🤑

Oh la la the message blocks
it's like a customer emailing you to complain lol

I'm telling you that the file is not mine and that I'm just relaying it.
First off the record with Magpie, then with you.
Then you want me to give you what I've seen in the past.
I've posted what I've seen.
I don't have anything else, as I've told everyone... What's more, Magpie's comments about me tell you the same thing.
I'm not at the initiation, or studying the file. So you'll be kind enough to let me off the hook on this one.
After playing with the news and letting things get out of hand like you did, don't come whining to me if the subject remains in the public domain while you don't offer any explanation.

The information about you was passed on to Magpie a week ago at my instigation so that you could stop your war. Don't make me out to be the instigator of this thing when I passed on information that was simply intended to calm things down.

But as you've prepared your show to show off like you've calculated everything, I'm curious to see what happens next.

I've released all the previous files in my name and I have no worries about doing that.
After that it's going to get pretty annoying with your superior tone, personally it's starting to get on my nerves. After that, I'm probably not the right person to give an opinion.

In short, we sum up the accusation, we give you information about a possible bug, you don't say anything to pull out the mystery card at the last minute, you kindly prepare a file on the management of the federations on a vague point of regulation against Marcus, you whine that you're being accused, you put pressure on to get the evidence and when I give you two things that I've passed on to you, you make your demonstration in grand strategist mode.

I'll say it again, I don't give a damn whether you're guilty or not, the whole thing sucked and I've said it 15 times. The only thing that interests me is that the fighting stops and we get down to the real issues.

Zeus: Oh la la les pavés de messages
on dirait un client qui t'envoie un mail pour se plaindre lol

On the contrary, I found Brewen's review comprehensive and easy to digest. A real refresher 👏🏼

It's unhealthy to let whistle-blowing behaviour go unpunished, especially if it's unfounded or even deliberately false. It's a question of everyone playing by the same rules.

This season promises to be rich enough in drama not to see grudges and quarrels flourish on the VFo. Ladies and gentlemen, if someone makes fun of you, don't respond. If people spread untruths about you, don't give them any credit. If you feel you have been wronged, contact an admin. But please don't turn the VFo into a battleground.

#MakeVForumGreatAgain

decibel: C'est maladif chez vous, je vous dis que le dossier n'est pas de moi et que je ne fais que le relais.
Dans un premier temps en off auprès de Magpie, puis aupres de toi.
Après vous voulez que je donne ce que moi j'ai vu passé.
Je vous ai posté ce qui est passé chez moi.
Je n'ai pas autre chose comme je l 'ai dis à tout le monde... D'ailleurs la remonté de magpie à mon sujet te dis la même chose.
Je ne suis pas à l'initiation, ni à l'étude du dossier. Donc tu seras bien gentil de me lâcher dan...

Dear Jex.
We don't give explanations because no admin has come to the source! Who else do we have to explain it to? Everything went backwards. A complaint has been lodged, and we're waiting to see whether or not it's punishable. There's no point in contacting the possible targets, in case there are reasons, explanations and to possibly find out more. This would have avoided a lot of mess, and the sniggering of some people, which is strangely less audible all of a sudden?

Things were passed on to me at your initiative, and that's to be emphasised, yes. We talked about the basic motive, that's between us, I have my doubts, but that's it. I then IMMEDIATELY contacted DECK to get his version of the facts, another CP (because he's obviously another target, and we can't wait for that sequence, if it comes) and Blue to ask him to investigate as quickly as possible. If there was a flaw or cheating, we needed to gather the facts as quickly as possible. And take action (first stop, then punish if fraud is proven). The rest, however, is not up to me.

Then you did it to stop the war.... I tried to understand, and to speak calmly. The result? This half-targeted post from estac for short loans a few days later, then part of the bug, and reminders all over the place. We decided to ignore the situation, not to raise the issue again, to give things a chance to calm down. And we're the ones doing the show... okay.

As far as Marcus is concerned, there's no attack. There's just a parallel drawn with his definition of "misappropriation of a game mechanism". There have been no complaints, we don't give a damn. It was just to draw a parallel, to compare two situations, where there's good misappropriation and bad misappropriation. The rest really isn't important. Don't give it any thought either, it was just a comparison. We're not asking for anything.

As for the rest, I think Deck is answering you because you're the only one who dared to name things. On the other hand, you're not risking anything... But it's easy to see who's been targeted for a while in the little jabs here and there. I doubt that what Alex, Marcus and others I can't remember have been excited about for a while is poor +1 internships or short loans with LPA or who knows who (something they didn't do, for the sake of argument). After that, it doesn't really matter whether it was you or someone else who pulled the strings.
The only thing that matters is the end result, and here we are, having to justify ourselves, when a simple admin message and a square investigation would probably have solved everything in 1 hour.

Poor +1 internships!

Allow me to add that, over the course of the seasons, these poor courses allow you to considerably increase the endu of your players, so it's not "poor" in itself!

Little by little the bird makes its nest, drowned in the multitude of trees (here you have to look at the transfers, but you weren't born yesterday to understand the metaphor)... after that, I'll come back to you Magpie, sorry it's just for the example, nothing personal and I'm not passing any judgement!

A. Kerry

Bought it on the night of the 6th to the 7th (I think)... you waited until Saturday to do a "poor internship" +1... to sell it for 1M (yes, free market)... and immediately afterwards, at its "new" owner's, another "poor internship" + 1 was done... I'll let you check the times, it's a perfect match!

He's only 18 and until he's 23, how many work placements will he do?

Not many now, I reckon ;)

Brutus: Des pauvres stages à +1 !?

Permet moi, d'intervenir, lesdits pauvres stages permettent au fil des saisons de pouvoir augmenter considérablement l'endu des joueurs donc cela n'est pas "pauvre" en soit !

Petit à petit l'oiseau fait son nid, noyé dans la multitude des arbres (là il faut y voir les transferts, mais tu n'es pas né de la dernière pluie pour comprendre la métaphore)... après, je reviens sur toi Magpie désolé c'est juste pour l'exemple, rien de personnel et je ne porte aucun jugeme...

Ah, but I'm not denying it
I did the training session very early, when I got up, for my entire squad.
Then I gave up this player to help out, because that's the new doctrine. I did the same for another CP who is committed to the agreement (but the player may have arrived after the course, I don't know). It's a crazy situation that I'd never have done before, but if it shows the absurdity (in my opinion) of this new doctrine, then it's a double whammy.
As for what happens next, I'll wash my hands of it. The manager is free to do what he wants, he's not my player any more. I've done my training camp, for my squad, and that's that.

That said, it seemed to me that it was patched up? That Aymeric had stopped that +1? Last season a lot of players had problems with this patch. If that's not the case, then what do we do? If I've done my training period, does that mean that a manager who hasn't done his training period can't do his training period if he buys the player from me?
I think we'll see eye to eye. Somewhere on this forum, I said that this had to be corrected. And explained what could happen with price deregulation. And I even thought it had been corrected, until the post in the bug section. This multiple stage needs to be curbed quickly, whatever the vector I think.
That way, no more stories.

10ball question
if a45 didn't want to change it and everything is possible now, it's deliberate, isn't it?
IF THE GAME ALLOWS YOU TO DO IT, you pay for your training period
if the game allows you to recall or dismiss 1 player
Why do you always want to introduce new rules that don't exist?
montre moi 1seul topic de a45 qui dis qu'il l'a arrange ici sur le vfo
it's not the admins who have to validate the rules but a45
so as long as a45 doesn't post anything about it here it's authorized since the game authorizes it and you can have all the possible versions it's really the mdj who validates it or not and as he hasn't done anything to modify it it's because he authorized it and even if you have 50admins who will tell you the opposite it's really the game that validates it (so a45)

All that was missing was Lomax, and we've come full circle!

Galywat: Manquait plus que Lomax, la boucle est bouclée !

I love you too, Galy. I hope you're well, my little chick.
In the meantime, you look like a real idiot, you have no idea how much I'm laughing out loud at that.
vous l'avez bien flingue le jeu toi le 1er et le resulat en est la
to finish with you my friend galy I'm still right about what I wrote
If the game allows you to do it, you have the right to do it, especially since it has been reported and not changed.
donc tu peux plus appeler ca faille puisque pas corriger de a45 et que tu peux le faire encore
comme d'ab vous inventent des pauvres regles a 2balles qui n'en sont pas au passage en disant c'est 1faille ou comme le voleur dirrais 1exploit mdr
1bug c'est pas non plus puisque michbou l'a également dis
donc c'est encore 1invention de votre part, genre le gagn des 40du vfo qui essayent de changer vf pour que ca arranges les
comme dirrais alex c'est pathetique mdr