lecastor |
Hace 12 díasHi, there,
I don't know if I'm alone in this. But I'm currently having a series of TABs that is absolutely scandalous for the fairness of the game. I currently have a 2/27 success rate over the last 27 TAB sessions. And both times it was with a huge domination in a minor cup (league cup).
I should point out that I've done almost everything randomly. 1 time in manual. And a defeat at the end and 2/3 times only one shot in manual (the rest in random).
How can you do anything in this game if a draw means elimination? How can you continue to be motivated if the game systematically defeats you in a series where you have to aim for a 50% success rate?
Almost every winner of the LdC or a special cup (Christmas or summer) comes away with at least 1 session won if not 2 or 3.
Are there others like me?
I get the impression that I play in hardcore mode or "mission impossible" mode in the cups.
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zejl |
Hace 12 díasI'd advise you to choose your sides so there's no doubt about the random mode.
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Nicularo |
Hace 12 díasHello!
You've been playing for 18 years... You know very well that there's not much you can do. Your message is just a way of venting your frustration, and if you're really at 2/27, I understand that you're frustrated and I feel for you!
Unfortunately, manual or random, it doesn't make much difference. One gives you the impression that you're in control of something and the other doesn't, but in the end it's heads or tails. If you toss a coin up in the air 27 times, you're unlikely to get 2 heads and 25 tails, but over several hundred (or even thousands) of tosses it can happen, and you're proof of that ^^.
So be patient castor, it will turn!
Hang in there
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Zeus |
Hace 11 díasAfter that, if there were carrots only on penalty kicks it would be fine, but no xD
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steril |
Hace 11 díasYou don't want to make the girls pull, especially.....
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wildzap |
Hace 11 díasAnd if you choose your sides, change them every match.
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kiki-sainté |
Hace 11 díasI had the same shooting sessions for 5 seasons I passed every round, in Picardy Cup 5 minutes from the end of the match I decided to change the session and the disaster I lost, I would have left normal I would have passed.
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Galywat |
Hace 11 díaslecastor: Salut,
Je ne sais pas si je suis seul dans ce cas. Mais j'ai actuellement une série aux TAB qui est absolument scandaleux pour l'équité du jeu. Je suis actuellement à 2/27 de réussite sur les 27 dernières séances de TAB. Et encore les 2 fois c'était avec une énorme domination dans une coupe mineure (coupe de la ligue).
Je précise que j'ai quasiment tout fait en aléatoire. 1 fois en manuel. Et une défaite au bout et 2/3 fois un seul tir en manuel (le reste en aléatoire).
Comment voulez-vous fa...
You should check your opponents' tabs often. It's often the case that people don't change between sessions, which makes it possible to win.
After that it's 50/50, you're unlucky at the moment but there's nothing you can do about it.
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leakcim58 |
Hace 11 díasCarrot, carrot on the tab. It's going to be the "martine" series .......
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kiki-sainté |
Hace 11 díasleakcim58: Carotte, carotte au tab. Ca va être la série " martine".......
The next one is carrots on grass
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Ritter |
Hace 11 díasIt's especially in the cut that you see. I've been in that situation myself, and still am. Tu joue contre une équipe en carton non connecté de des lustres. exemple 1000 de stat contre 500 tu a 5 xg a 0.20 tu te tapes le 0a0 la tu c'est que tu va perdre au tir au but combien de fois cette configuration est arrivé je les compte même plus.
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Demi-cerveau |
Hace 11 díasRitter: C est surtout en coupe que tu vois . J ai parfois moi aussi eux ce cas et encore maintenant. Tu joue contre une équipe en carton non connecté de des lustres. exemple 1000 de stat contre 500 tu a 5 xg a 0.20 tu te tapes le 0a0 la tu c est que tu va perdre au tir au but combien de fois cette configuration est arrivé je les compte même plus.
I can confirm that I've never lost in the TAB in the league either. If anyone has an explanation.
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Arteta |
Hace 11 díasDemi-cerveau: Je confirme, moi non plus j'ai jamais perdu aux TAB en championnat. Si quelqu'un a l'explication.
Clever 😂👍🏻
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Eden Hzrd |
Hace 11 díasBE CAREFUL, YOU CAN'T CHOOSE 5 STRIKERS LIKE IN THE 😂😂😂😂😂😂 MATCH.
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lecastor |
Hace 10 díasGalywat: Tu devrais vérifier souvent les tabs adversaires. C'est souvent que les gens changent pas entre les séances ce qui permet de gagner.
Après bah c'est du 50/50, t'as pas de chance en ce moment mais bon il n'y a rien à faire.
That's what I do, check the opponents' TABs, but it's no use. If the opponent puts the opposite of the last time, I'm dead. You'd need at least 2 TAB sessions over the course of the season to be pretty sure that the club hasn't changed anything. But that's extremely rare.
In any case, it's still a lottery, unlike football in real life. But when you know that it's an elimination even if there's a draw, you feel like you're pedalling against the wind or playing against opponents who have a cheat code in hand. It's not fair at all. When it's been happening for more than a decade, you just want to throw it all away. There's no point in continuing. It's as if Aymeric had changed his code to penalise some people.
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myforsans |
Hace 10 díasFor penalties not to be a lottery, we'd have to stop using the G D C choice, which was called for by some people who didn't understand that it was still a (disguised) lottery.
Instead, each player would have to have an additional characteristic, which would be the ability to take penalties (which would be affected by matxh fatigue) and the goalkeepers would also have to have an ability called reflex or decision making, for example, and the penalty would be scored or not according to an algorithm taking into account the level of the shooter and the goalkeeper in this exercise.
Of course, so as not to upset the current characteristics, the characteristics linked to the ability to take penalties would be innate characteristics that could not be improved throughout a player's career.
And then, at the penalty shoot-out, the penalties would be taken one after the other, without any intervention from the manager: first the best shooter on the pitch, then the second, then the third, and each time an algorithm, which may include a small element of randomness (but not 100% as at present), would determine whether there was a goal or not.
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myforsans |
Hace 10 díasI would add, of course, that the innate characteristic would then be weighted by the player's NG. Donnaruma has a better chance of saving a penalty than a goalkeeper at departmental level, and Mbappé has a better chance of scoring a penalty than a goalkeeper at departmental level.
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Sun's |
Hace 10 díasWith your trick, small clubs that manage to draw in the cup will have a better chance of losing because ...unluckily they won't have been able to afford a goalkeeper with the highest rating...
Gg
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Demi-cerveau |
Hace 10 díasOtherwise, in the event of a draw, the team with the lowest level always wins. If the level is equal, the most recent iud always wins. This definitively solves the problem of carrots in penalties. 👌
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Bernarinho |
Hace 10 díasOr a systematic victory for the away team, which was at a "disadvantage" at kick-off.
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myforsans |
Hace 10 díasSun's: Avec ton truc les petits clubs qui arrivent a obtenir le nul en coupe auront plus de chance de perdre car ...pas de chance ils auront pas pû se payer un gardien avec note max dans les caractéristiques...
Gg
True, but :
1°) it's fairly consistent with reality
2°) it puts an end to complaints about "carrots" in penalties, because if you look closely, the one who complains about losing is never the one who was the weakest.
But yes, we can imagine any system that avoids pure chance and warns opponents so that they know what to expect before it happens:
- the most recent ID (or why not the oldest)
- the away team
- the team with the lowest index (or why not the highest)
etc.....
But the best system of all, in my opinion, would be to continue the match at sudden death until the first goal is scored, taking into account the continuing fatigue but with the players' physical condition being restored to the state it was in at the end of the 90 minutes.
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Bernarinho |
Hace 10 díasWith cup matches often starting at 8pm, if they last more than 90 minutes in a very random way, it's likely to cause problems for the federations when they convene, it's embarrassing not knowing when a match is going to finish.
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Marcus Aurelius |
Hace 10 díasThe extra skill proposed by Myforsans aside, we're heading for complete wtf when in the beginning it was just............an ordinary defeat in the TABs.
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spoupou |
Hace 10 díasWe simply have to accept defeat in the TABs, and that's all there is to it.
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michbou |
Hace 10 díasGalywat |
Hace 10 díaslecastor |
Hace 10 días2/25 on penalties is more than just an ordinary defeat on penalties. It doesn't happen anywhere else. And strangely enough, we're still dominating the games.
The idea of extra time is great, but it should only be used in LdC, CdL or special cups (summer, Christmas) to avoid abuse of youngsters in training in bogus cups.
And ideally, matches should start at 7pm for the federations.
The idea of a special feature is also a good one.
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myforsans |
Hace 10 díasBernarinho: Avec des matchs de coupe qui commencent souvent à 20h, s'ils durent plus de 90min de façon très aléatoire, ça risque de poser des soucis pour les convocations de fédération, c'est gênant de pas savoir quand va finir un match.
So that's really not a problem.
- You have a 25-minute window and 90 or 95% of the games will be over by 9.55pm.
- If you have a player selected, you know it beforehand and if you see that you still need him during the extra time, you're free to refuse the selection.
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lecastor |
Hace 9 díasAnother defeat. 2/26. And look at the xG and stats.
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Galywat |
Hace 9 díaslecastor: #match?mid=6393739
Nouvelle défaite. 2/26. Et regarder les xG et les stats.
You should have watched his last tab session, it's exactly the same shots and saves.
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lecastor |
Hace 9 díasGalywat: T'aurais dû regarder sa dernière séance de tab c'est exactement les mêmes tirs et arrêts.
Au pire c'était aléatoire et c'était une chance sur 2. Et au mieux tu gagnais sans soucis, quitte à assurer avec un ou deux arrêts/tirs.
And who's to say he wouldn't have changed just this once? I would have scored 0 goals and conceded 5.
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Galywat |
Hace 9 díaslecastor: Et qui te dit qu'il aurait pas changer juste cette fois ? J'aurais marquer 0 but et encaissé 5 buts.
Well, you complain about never having any luck. It was tempting. At worst, what difference would it have made to you?
And once again, knowing his session, you could have tried shots on one of the two remaining sides. That would have guaranteed you 5 goals today.
At worst, he had a 1 in 2 chance of going the right way by switching voluntarily. And for the saves, you could try on one of the shots and do the rest randomly to minimise the risks. It was very tempting.
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lecastor |
Hace 9 díasYou can't say that, Galy, because
- I've never had a case where the TABs were the same as the last time and yet I check many times.
- As I said, the logical thing is to change, so we expect it to change. But it doesn't matter, we have no way of knowing unless it was 3/4 identical sessions but the visible past for the club was just one session. If I'd been mixing and he'd been mixing too, how would I have known? You're basing your opinion on the results, but it's easier to say afterwards.
The truth is that my xP is almost 4 times higher and I've lost 24 times over the last 26 sessions. Almost all of them at random.
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Nicularo |
Hace 8 díasleakcim58: Carotte, carotte au tab. Ca va être la série " martine".......
Martine in LV for the time being 🤣
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bluethunders26 |
Hace 8 díasNicularo: Volume n°1 : Martine à la LV 🤣
She's our barmaid and cheerleader 😆😆😆😆
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Nicularo |
Hace 8 díasbluethunders26: C est notre barmaid et pom pom girl 😆😆😆😆
Say, isn't she a bit young for that?!
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bluethunders26 |
Hace 8 díasNicularo: Dis donc, elle serait pas un poil jeune pour ça ?!
But then she's not so young any more
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Galywat |
Hace 8 díaslecastor: Tu ne peux pas dire ça Galy car
- Je n'ai jamais eu ce cas où les TAB étaient les mêmes que la dernière fois et pourtant je vérifie plein de fois.
- Comme je l'ai indiqué, ce qui est logique c'est de changer donc on s'attend à ce qu'il change. Mais peu importe, on n'a aucun moyen de la savoir sauf si c'était 3/4 séances identiques mais le passé visible pour le club c'était juste une séance. Si j'avais mixé et qu'il avait lui aussi mixé comment j'aurais pu le savoir. Toi tu te bases sur le...
It depends on who you're up against.
Then, once again, you can try and minimise the risks. If the guy puts on the same mix again, you've hit the jackpot, otherwise it's pretty much a matter of chance.
The xG has no effect on your chances at the TABs afterwards. And if you look on the bright side, in all likelihood you're not a cuckold :p
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Marcus Aurelius |
Hace 8 díasOur thoughts go out to the man who, somewhere on vf, has won 27 out of 29 sessions and who is, in all likelihood, a cuckold!
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Demi-cerveau |
Hace 8 díasChrist, I've won my last penalty shoot-out, I'll go and check my wife's diary.
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Galywat |
Hace 8 díasMarcus Aurelius: Nos pensées vont à celui qui, quelque part sur vf, est à 27 séances remportées sur 29 et qui est, selon toute vraisemblance ; cocu !
Phew, it's not me!
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Magik'jojo |
Hace 8 díasDemi-cerveau: Bon dieu, j'ai gagné ma dernière séance de tirs aux buts, je vais aller vérifier l'agenda de ma femme.
My sister was at my house
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Hydilik |
Hace 8 díasMarcus Aurelius: Nos pensées vont à celui qui, quelque part sur vf, est à 27 séances remportées sur 29 et qui est, selon toute vraisemblance ; cocu !
I'm not the one in Vfifa, but I still managed to send you my TAB session, all identical to my opponent's saves...
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