Hello,
I was surprised to see that my players who came back from selection around 3pm had recovered no percentage of their fitness. This is the case for my 2 defenders Mbola and Napolov.
Is this a bug or a change?
Thanks for your help.

If it's a modification, it's a disaster.

Several clubs who had players selected for my SI have just told me.
If this isn't a bug, it's going to make it difficult to be a coach, because with this system, clubs are deprived of their players for 3 days

Yikes. 😬
That endurance 🤔 9

Probably a modification

michbou: Sûrement une modification

If it's a change, it would be good if Aymeric could come and explain it to us. That way we can tell him that with such a lame idea, we can't make any more is because he doesn't seem to have anticipated it.

I've planned an is for Sunday, which is championship day. I've planned to use the goalkeeper of a member of my agreement to play this IS, as I myself have a championship match in the evening. Because I'm doing things properly, the IS is in the morning and his league match is at 8pm. So I'm not penalising him, and I'm not penalising his championship match. But no, the idea of the century: the players come back from IS without having recovered. So I penalise all the members of my agreement to whom I've taken a player on Sunday.

Rather than come up with musty solutions that don't even solve the problem (since I imagine it's a pseudo response to the story of the player on loan who played 2 games on the same day), there's a simple and effective solution to put in place:

• it's impossible to recall a player before the end of his loan. In extreme cases, the admins will be able to break loans manually.
• it's impossible to end a loan when you're the borrower and the loan isn't finished.

The other solution is to abolish IS and everything that goes with it. Or to give loans for corporate tax the same status as loans for federations. But what is being proposed here is untenable.

Aymeric has ensured that players no longer have a physical gain at the end of a loan.
Players used in IS are considered to be 'on loan' and are therefore affected by this change.

I'll be sure to let him know what the problem is... if he hasn't already read this topic.

In the meantime, there's no need to make a fuss or to add to the exasperation

The opposing coach (MNE agreement) whom I interviewed told me that he had the same problem.

So it must not be a bug cĥez moivmais but a deliberate change.

It's going to be hot for future IS matches and will encourage clubs to refuse selections.
But for IS matches it could kill off one of the most important vectors of the game, namely the agreement rankings.

Let's wait for the admins to discuss this with Aymeric before getting carried away, but it's true that with the greater impact of endurance, IS selections are going to be complicated, especially for small agreements with clubs that can't double positions

Well, I announce publicly that I'll be doing the SI against Demi, either with free players or with my own players.
We schedule the SI in the morning so as not to penalise the managers of our agreements for the championships in the evening or AM and bim modifies!

Personally, and without rancour, it's always the same, one or 2 clubs optimise (or get round) the rules and it's the whole commu that has to adapt to the change!

We're used to it... but the job of coach is already (a little, if not a lot) restrictive, and now it's becoming unbearable with the deadlines imposed!

As far as the Federations are concerned, that would be catastrophic. With players being booked on the eve of big matches when you don't know the coach and you don't give a damn about the Federations.
A lot of players would block the players and the Federations would take a hit.

If it really is like that, the end of is and fedes

We can honestly imagine that Aymeric has cancelled the recovery of players on loan, forgetting to differentiate between 'classic' loans and IS + federations loans.
He's bound to change that, it seems obvious.
Well, the sooner the better, of course, because there's something to worry about with tonight's federations!

We'd love to hear from the boss!

That's why I'm boycotting all vocal evenings where they never listen to us and come up with something crazy afterwards every time

It's going to be complicated to loan players to the federation in these conditions

The solution, 99 d endu 🤭😁

hazard14: Voilà pk je boycott total les soirées vocal ou il nous écoute jamais et te sors un truc de fou après à chaque fois

Could you refer your points?
I wanna read your projects too.

(beta versions or testers will be the solution for this. Yet i Trust Aymeric holding all version backups)

Drezzo35: La solution , des 99 d endu 🤭😁

Yes, because, for example, a player of mine like him with J. Safrizal
with 39 stamina, i.e. well above the game's standards, still lost 33% of his physique during his match today, whereas before the latest changes to the fatigue settings he sometimes lost less than 25%

If we add training fatigue to the equation, a player like that will now be able to play just one day out of two,.... so if, on top of that, there are the IS and federation matches that burn him out, we're going to have to authorise at least 45 players per club and no more than 32.

The good news is that everyone is on the same footing :)
So in the end it doesn't really matter, it's a competitive game where you have to measure yourself against opponents who have to deal with the same problems as you.

It's just that now some people are going to have to get used to getting out of their comfort zone and that's probably what's causing this outcry, but in the end it'll only be the 50th time since I started playing this game that you have to adapt, and in the end it has its charm.

A few days ago, my dfc came in at 90% and the other at 100%

It's bad enough we're having to deal with rotten stats because affinities are taken into account during the is... if on top of that, the guys aren't getting their players back at 100%... we might as well stop the inter-selections straight away!

What's been bothering me for the last few months is that you either discover a change or in 3 hours it's like that.
A bit 🤔 .
As I said in my agreement I play seriously D1 and ie and at the end of the season I may sell everything take 32 free and make only wooden friendlies like + 3 years back 😊
I would be very rich but a .foam team and no more problems 😆

A. Buia
Left 10 min ago with 68%, we'll see tomorrow

to avoid playing the day between the championship matches and make your match is as if it was a normal match because at the time there was no physical recovery

Bula did not play in the federation manager not connected gone to 68% arrived at 100%

No problem with Fede in principle

Ditto, players left for federation last night at 60 / 70% and came back at 100%. But player who left at 100% in IS and came back with a loss of fitness 🤔.

We'd like to kill the IS Cup but we wouldn't do it any other way.

I'm hoping for a return to the formula that I think everyone agreed on.

afterwards, if the players arrive at 100% in the SI but come back burnt out, just play on the championship days so that they recover the day after (so no or little impact on the field) but if there's an SI or a cup between the fields it's more problematic)
on the one hand, it's perhaps not so bad for the selectors who have to make 50 changes on the day of the IS because one guy burns out before the call-up
(this is just a thought)

Back from is just now, physical condition not back to 100/100..

At D+1, the "bug" has still not been corrected, and we don't know any more 😐

why don't you just think that your is matches are like a normal match in your calendar so adapt instead of absolutely asking for this physical recovery and adapt, I repeat at the time there was no physical recovery

VALENCIANO: pourquoi vous pensez pas juste que vos matchs is sont comme un match normal dans vos calendrier donc adaptez vous au lieu de demander absolument cette recuperation physique et adaptez vous, je le redit a époque il avait aucun recuperation physique

I think that without there necessarily being a 100% return, there would simply have to be a return to the clubs at exactly the same physical level as when they were called up by the coach.
Then everyone would be happy. In principle, clubs make an effort to provide their coach with top players, so there's nothing wrong with a player coming back at the top of his game.
But if he left for the national team at 60%, we agree that it's not really logical for him to come back at 100%.

And the same goes for federation matches, which should be the same because that's where there are abuses because some players take undue advantage of the recovery in the federation

It's true that it's strange that it should be changed for the IS and not for the federations when, in fact, it should be the other way round.
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myforsans: Je pense que sans qu'il y ait nécessairement de retour à 100 % il y faudrait tout simplement qu'il y ait un retour dans les clubs exactement au même niveau de physique où ils sont partis quand ils ont été appelés par le sélectionneur..
Et comme ça tout le monde sera content. En principe les clubs font l'effort de fournir au sélectionneur de leur entente des joueurs au top, donc rien d'anormal qu le joueur revienne au top physiquement.
Mais si il est parti en sélection à 60 %, on est d'accord ...

D'accord avec toi
And personally, as selectors, players who are not in form ... I don't even take them 😆 the last is I did with 14 players ...

Fine, but it all comes down to the same thing: if he gets to X%, he goes to 100% and does the match, he gets back to X%

lens59: Bien mais ça revient au même s'il arrive à X % passe à 100 % et fais le match il revient à X %
Modification c'est en fédération qu'il passe à 100% en.arrivant

No, that's not the point. You've misunderstood the problem 😃

My 2 players is I'm doing my utmost to do without them so that they reach 100% with the selectors
For the sake of the agreement.
But now he won't be playing when he comes back either.
So 6 matches is minimum + the matches before and after, which are often league matches, they won't play much for the club.
You add affinities and increased fatigue in matches
It becomes a headache to play.

Hello. Have you had any feedback from the MDJ about this new feature or bug?
Best regards

No 0 return to communicate.
Sorry

So should we expect it to stay that way?

ps: I already know the answer... but hope springs eternal...

Don't talk about it too much, or it'll be 21 days

lens59: N'en parlez pas trop sinon ça va passer à 21j

I think you've got the wrong subject on your reply 😅

I was just about to say that ^^
Ahah, quite a 59 ^^

Yes, too many subjects, fortunately I'm not in the 21

Socrate: Non 0 retour à communiquer.
Désolé

Has anyone tried to play it on Elite Dangerous?
It seems to be active there.

Because it can't be voluntary: during audio#3, the MDJ promised to announce significant changes from now on. This is one of them!
So it must be a bug! 💁‍♂️

I've adapted
Leaving my D1 championship
And my 56j players on the market.
🫡🫡🫡🫡

My player also came back without recovering his physique, which is probably a bug C. Sopheaknimoul
Of the 2 who left for the national team, only he has not recovered his physical condition

Say say: Mon joueur aussi est revenu sans recouvrer son physique c'est sûrement un bug C. Sopheaknimoul
Sur les 2 partis en sélection seul lui n'a pas récupérer son physique

Did the other player play the SI?

Yes about 40 minutes

Any news? My 2 players who played an IS yesterday are a long, long way from 100%

Remonté ce joueur a A45