myforsans |

2 month ago

The new season is off to a flying start, with some crazy matches:
#match?mid=6700485&score 34.2 XG for 11 goals
#match?mid=6701286 66.5 XG for 13 goals
#match?mid=6700464&score 19.8 XG for 8 goals

Some people were complaining that nothing was happening in matches, but now we're going to have matches with rugby scores!


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michbou |

2 month ago

maybe it's time to adjust the instructions :)


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Azby |

2 month ago

Small comma problem on the adjustment maybe. ^^

No crazy xG on my game played a bit later, but I didn't look at the others.

We'll have to follow the open data files made available by A45 to get a clearer idea of the new xG cap for an occasion.


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myforsans |

2 month ago

I'm not sure it's just a comma error, because 11 goals for 3.42 XG (and not 34.2 XG) wasn't quite like that last season either.


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Galywat |

2 month ago

It might be worth looking at the data extraction file. Maybe we'll see some opportunities with more than 1 xG?


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zejl |

2 month ago

Even if there are misses, there's no turning back, so let's have a more spectacular VF with more goals 🙏🙏🙏🙏.
Personally, I'll accept a weekend (even a week or more) full of regressions only to see real developments that add a bit of spice.


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Galywat |

2 month ago

zejl: Même si il y a des loupés pas de retour arrière pleaaaase qu on ait un VF plus spectaculaire avec plus de buts 🙏🙏🙏🙏.
Perso j accepte un weekend (même une semaine ou plus) blindées de régressions pour au final de vraies évolutions qui apportent un peu de piment

Yeah, I don't really see the point of matches at 66xG. A change would be nice, but you don't want to bug the game either.


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zejl |

2 month ago

No 66xg is indeed too much but 13-0 ... send lens play a small village in central France it will end in 20 or 30-0


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zejl |

2 month ago

A club with 900 NG should be able to give a 20-0 score to a club with 200 NG.


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junior |

2 month ago

As far as I'm concerned, it's not too much of a change, just the same continuity.
#match?mid=6703968&stats


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michbou |

2 month ago

it all depends on the instructions given to the players :)


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Fidel BBTG |

2 month ago

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RMP-Val |

2 month ago

Well, when you see that there are only a small number of matches with strange scores and xGs and that the rest of the matches seem to be unchanged from last season, it must surely be an unintended bug.


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myforsans |

2 month ago

RMP-Val: Oui enfin quand on voit qu'il ne s'agit qu'un petit nombre de match avec des scores et xG bizarres et que le reste des matches ont l'air de se dérouler sans changement par rapport à la saison passée, cela doit surement être un bug non voulu

In fact, I've just won a match 2-0 with 1.2 XG and 6 chances, 2 of which were converted, which makes sense with the usual settings.
#match?mid=6683250&score
So it looks like it's all about unbalanced games with crazy XGs.

It's a bit as if the progression of XGs is exponential rather than linear.

A lot of managers don't rely on XGs at all, and this new setting isn't going to encourage them to do so.


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Neat |

2 month ago

If this continues, the scores will have to match up better, which makes more sense for this game, because if you have a team that trains every day like FC Barcelona (score +90) and you're playing against a team that doesn't train at all and doesn't have a manager, it's like playing against a relatively weak team, It could be the local gendarmerie team (score +35) or the postal team (score -20), I took the higher score for the policemen because I suppose they must have more training, for the postmen, I take the lower score because if it's like on my side, they're often in the pub after their rounds.... #match?mid=6690946&score


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Galywat |

2 month ago

myforsans: Effectivement, je viens à l'instant de gagner un match 2-0 avec 1,2 XG et 6 occasions dont 2 converties, ce qui est logique avec les paramétrages habituels.
#match?mid=6683250&score
Donc on dirait que ça concerne exclusivement les matchs déséquilibrés qui affichent des XG délirants.

C'est un peu comme si la progression des XG était exponentielle et pas linéaire.

Beaucoup de managers ne se fiaient pas du tout aux XG, c'est pas ce nouveau paramétrage qui va les inci...

I suppose it's in response to a request from some people to make better use of stats imbalances between two opponents. But the settings don't seem to have been found yet


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Radio |

2 month ago

I agree with Myforsans: xGs seem to correlate with the level of adversity: the bigger the difference in level, the bigger the scores.

Below is my match of the day:
#match?mid=6705062
It's already more spectacular than usual!

Although things may not yet be perfect - and God knows the VF community is... let's just say demanding - some managers have been heard.


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myforsans |

2 month ago

Here's another match that suggests a new setup:
17 chances and 11 goals (6 - 5) with XGs for both teams of just 1.9
#match?mid=6680553

It just suggests that the % chance (in the case of 1 goal from 4 chances) of there being 11 goals from 17 chances is 0.053%, or one chance in 1,900.
So in the end, it's not that exceptional.
On the other hand, if there had been 2 more goals, for example a score of 7-6, that would be rarer: 0.000112%, or one chance in 89,000... but as always, not impossible.
Only if we see this type of avalanche of goals happening again and again in the next few days will we be able to assume that there has been a new setting, but for the moment it's premature to say.

I've also had a look at the latest matches and there are no longer any crazy XGs at 25, 30 or 40 like there were this morning, so it must have been a settings bug that's been corrected.


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David59 |

2 month ago

Much nicer. There will be fewer carrots.
I hope A45 doesn't go back on it.


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Zeus |

2 month ago

it was certainly a bug that has been fixed I suppose xD


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junior |

2 month ago

David59: Nettement plus chouette. Il y aura moins de carottes.
J'espère qu A45 ne reviendra pas dessus.

#match?mid=6703968
No, the carrots are there ....for my part, it's continuity


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Neat |

2 month ago

Radio: J'abonde dans le sens de Myforsans: les xG semblent être en corrélation avec le niveau d'adversité: plus l'écart de niveau est important, plus les scores le sont.

Ci-dessous mon match du jour:
#match?mid=6705062
C'est déjà plus spectaculaire qu'à l'accoutumée !

Même si tout n'est peut-être pas encore parfait - et Dieu sait que la communauté VF est... disons exigeante - certains managers ont été entendus.

I think he might have a bug seeing 0% in the opponent's board, or is that how it is now?
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Neat |

2 month ago

Radio: J'abonde dans le sens de Myforsans: les xG semblent être en corrélation avec le niveau d'adversité: plus l'écart de niveau est important, plus les scores le sont.

Ci-dessous mon match du jour:
#match?mid=6705062
C'est déjà plus spectaculaire qu'à l'accoutumée !

Même si tout n'est peut-être pas encore parfait - et Dieu sait que la communauté VF est... disons exigeante - certains managers ont été entendus.

Now, for my match, the opponent's % is shown...
image](https://i.imgur.com/UYDzEdy.jpeg)


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