Hello,
I've just posted because I was amazed to see this morning that we're in D3, which means we finished 13th in D2 with 116 points, and KVF are holding their own with 120 points, which means that at 10pm precisely on Friday evening they were 14th with 112 points.
How did they manage to stay up with an extra 8 points for free after finishing their IE and IS?

I've asked Socrate about this, but unfortunately he doesn't know why, so he's asked me to post the bug.

What's a pity is that when we get the retention at 9.30pm on Wednesday, we celebrate our retention, and when we get up the next morning we see that we've gone down and that the entente who were logically ranked 14th end up 12th with 8 points more than they had at 10pm after all the IE and IS played.

Maybe if there's justice, we'll be drafted back into D2 because it's still pretty dishonest to touch a button and be warned a few minutes before the reset so that we go down for free when we've kept up our game, our football.

Thanks for the explanation.
Please, no unnecessary comments, just those who are aware or the author of the last-minute addition of the 8 points without us being warned and that we're going down in D3 that we were then maintained, can comment.

If you don't want us in D2, we can stay in D3 but at the very least a public apology would be sensible (+ compensation because our survival was well and truly assured after our last ie and is on Friday night).

Thank you very much.

Hi there,
I think I saw on the IS CUP D2 topic that there were forfeited matches. Perhaps they picked up points in the standings thanks to forfeited victories in matches where they had lost or drawn?
To be checked

Nims57: Salut,
Il me semble avoir vu sur le le sujet IS CUP D2 qu'il y a eu des matchs forfaits, peut être ont ils récupérer des points au classement grâce a des victoires par forfait sur des matchs où ils avaient perdu ou fait nul?
A vérifier

I suppose so too, an FYM also mp'd me. But if we'd known about it in advance, our managers who were playing for a draw in ie could have played for a win etc. None of our members knew about the forfeits and so on. For us, the retention was calculated with KVF's points live.
Not being aware of anything in time and adding the points at the last minute to get us down is still dishonest for us who have kept up on a regular basis.

I'm not asking for KVF to be relegated to D3, but for justice to be done and for us to be put back into D2 like we were in the regular season. And, above all, an apology.

I can imagine that it must be frustrating to find out about this when it seemed to be a foregone conclusion, especially when it suddenly happens like this.

If you go up, one of the other teams has to go down, in this case the KVFs.
You'll then have to explain to the KVFs that the points won through forfeits are cancelled... even though they legitimately count.
Unfortunately, Magik, one of your teams has to go down. You deserved to stay in D2 and it's infuriating when it happens like that, but that's the way the game is, and the points added were not stolen by the KVF and did not result from a bug.

Your ranking yesterday at 11pm
image](https://i.imgur.com/fXofS73.jpeg)

Nicularo: Si vous remontez, une entente doit descendre, en l’occurrence les KVF.
Il faudra alors expliquer aux KVF que les points gagnés grâce aux forfaits sont annulés… Alors qu’ils comptent légitimement.
Malheureusement Magik, l’une de vos ententes doit descendre. Vous mériteriez de rester en D2 et c’est rageant quand ça se passe comme ça mais c’est le jeu, les points rajoutés n’ont pas été volés par les KVF et ne sont pas issus d’un bug.

After that, they may have a D2 at 17. We've done well with dv at 15.
I'll never try to get another team to go down, they played their hearts out to stay up, that's all. Just administratively it's forbidden what happened.
Thanks magik for the screenshot at 11pm.

How could they make us go down at the last minute when we knew nothing about the forfeits or anything else and it was impossible to make up for it. No apologies, no emails, no nothing, it's disgusting.
And honestly, if Socrates had done it, he would have warned us in advance. Because every time we have a problem we contact Socrate and he always gets back to us.

It's not really a bug, but the IS points that the KVFs got after their claims on 2 IS were added. As stipulated in the rules.
So there's nothing abnormal in this case, the frustration is understandable because it's happening in the last few days, but we'll have to deal with it.

What's more, a similar request was made by you during the season for the same reason. Your agreement also received the points in addition to this IS where you drew or lost I don't know.
You mustn't think that your request was more legitimate because it was made during the season and not at the end of the season.
No doubt that in the place of KVF you or another member of your agreement would have made the request on the last day for repairs.
So you have to show a little common sense and good faith in this kind of situation and not always want to always have the right favours.

Have a good season
I'm closing