I have the impression that since yesterday, players with little stamina are losing more physical fitness than usual. On a friendly match with everyone at almost 100%, they're all between 40 and 50 at the end of the match, whereas before they were between 50 and 60. Have you noticed that too?

As Aymeric announced during the discord evening, endurance will now be more important than before.

Just like the old days, I think.

As far as I'm concerned, it was already in place, so this would be an even bigger readjustment?

I didn't notice anything different about my match yesterday

Idem nothing abnormal I play at the moment and it is identical to usual to see..

where have you been
Rihanna 😅

50 endu
I never go over 20% physical in a match

It's all in the title, if you gain weight you lose stamina

Winter is coming
sorry
Season gonna start so... Lets break some legs 😅

Nothing to report
My players even lost less than in previous matches
No fantasy "update

How about thinking about instructions, which can influence fatigue in matches?

RAS either
I even manage to do it every day with two youngsters aged 30 and over 😉

I've also noticed a drop

I surrounded the players with my last 4 full matches, gnanou, frankowski, kellett and Andres Martin. There was a big increase between the 26th and 28th. And another one on yesterday's match. I don't mind that a set point increased fatigue (personally I didn't change my set point, maybe my opponent had an influence 🤷 ). And even my keeper, who plays every day, has a similar increase. I find it hard to believe that it's chance
image](https://i.imgur.com/hVhnk0C.jpeg)

Yes, there's clearly been a slight increase in the loss of body weight
It remains to be seen whether this is temporary or permanent

it's not just a question of now, sometimes some people get a rise, while others don't, and in other periods it'll be the other way round

I can't see that there was an increase in fatigue.
You can believe that the scale is tweaked every day or whatever, but I think it's more possible that the level of fatigue depends on other elements. Yes, players with higher endurance will tire less than those with lower in the same match if they play same amount, but in some matches the whole team could tire more.

I always play high pressing, balanced / neutral, i.e. normal and always use short passes tactics, so it doesn't affect fatigue levels as I never change and yet I can sometimes see a significant difference in fatigue levels when comparing matches where they played same amount of minutes (sometimes only day apart).

Maybe so.

Nevertheless, I maintain that there's a degree of randomness, plus or minus. When I follow my friendlies without changing any instructions whatsoever, I have variations of a few % (more or less) around a 'fixed' value of physical loss.

2 players big stamina

Three for the road?
image](https://i.imgur.com/eEJqaRt.jpeg)

I don't see any change on my personal marathoners.
It's still just as hot under the sun 😇

I could be wrong, but it's more a problem of recovery time, which is longer, than match fatigue. Personally, I haven't seen any significant changes in terms of loss of fitness in matches, as opposed to the time it takes to get back to 100%.
Which is why I say that.

Yesterday really stung for my team mdr
image](https://i.imgur.com/ShTZSpB.jpeg)

so either the loss is totally random or there's a bug xD

Personally, my players have lost more fitness in recent days following matches against superior opponents. Today's match was very easy and there was less loss of fitness. Perhaps we should look into this?

3% more tired than usual.
J 1 a j22 ça va
1 day of league ie ect ...
D 23 at half time my team is drained.
Conclusion , ça va être la foire fouille ai rc lens59

• 9% in 6 days

Quite stable for me. (30 endu)

2 weeks ago my players were finishing around 60% over 90 minutes, now they're around 50%

Well, not at home, especially now that my match has just finished

18 endurance but 6 days ago it was still good.
A minus 9 (during the championships I think that's very nice)
That's not what I call a gradual change

But in any case, didn't Aymeric say in a previous live interview that endurance would become increasingly important as the seasons went on? It's just an application of what he said several months ago.

Balde 21 endurance

Anyway, it's no use, I'm not the owner.
Enjoy the game

So what's the problem with Balde? He plays every other day without any problems, doesn't he?

He's not really the problem, he's an example.
My squad is what it is but when you have players who are 100% at kick-off and at the 46th minute you're forced to make almost 5 changes because your players are almost 50 and the NG is less than half while I'm breaking my head to have affinities
Ps they played in d2 together.
Mais le débat est clos plus envie

I've just passed the 60% physical loss mark for players with 16 and 17 stamina.
It stings!

personally, I've just checked - 63% of form on a player with 11 d'endu.

Next to that, on players with 20 points (+ or -) I'm at -52% roughly speaking

All you have to do is miss one match and ... you've got your player in full pls lol

Our nuggets who have a volume of play worthy of an asthmatic granny mdr

I've also recently had a 62% drop in physical fitness. As a result, I don't even play every other day with the same team, but rather every third day at the moment. At the same time, physical recovery has been reduced to 14 days for a few seasons now.
I can't say how long VF has been around, but of all the games I've played, it's by far the most unstable. This is the period when stamina seems to be taking on a lot of importance, but I'd be very surprised if Aymeric's moods don't push him to completely turn back the clock.

It would be a good idea for someone to point out, in the apocalyptic picture painted at leisure, the current recovery rate of players (which is nowhere near 24% per day). Because, like you, I've got players who lose 60% of their fitness per match, but they still play every other day without any problems. So I don't know, either I've got a phone that helps players recover faster, or you're deliberately hiding part of the truth.

Stamina is more important in matches, that's true. On the other hand, trying to make people believe that players who lose 60% of their physical strength in a match can't play two matches 48 hours apart is an outright lie.

Apres ... Given that it's a statistic that impacts all the others in a match as the match progresses AND that in addition to that, it takes on an order of 20% of impact in itself (+ as well as -) you don't know why, that it's been going on for several seasons .... that it still complains as much, and not so much because it's adjusting (and even for me an adjustment is made little by little, particularly on a mechanic that ... encompasses all the stats, not 20% at once lol) and that, above all, it's still just as unstable after all this time .... how can you not be fed up? and "paint the picture" so negatively?

It's just an observation of cause and effect, eh lol Adjustments, yes of course, each game has them as it goes along with various and varied patches, but at this point ... it's always the same thing ... since then .... we're not going to lie, it's getting a bit tiresome and/or tiring lol