lorenzo861 |

9 month ago
  • 13% more fatigue on average... 70 to 72% for 90'... a dead team for the last day of the championship. All these constant changes are tiring.

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Vrael Zendo |

9 month ago

It's strange, when I played at 8pm, I didn't notice any difference...


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pixou |

9 month ago

you chose to have players with little physical ability.


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lens59 |

9 month ago

Your goalkeeper goes from 19% to 27% bizarre


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lorenzo861 |

9 month ago

pixou: tu as fais le choix d'avoir des joueurs avec peu de physique .

I can hear it. That's not the problem. I know what I'm up against if I lose 55-60% of my fitness over 90 minutes. Like all players with low stamina. That's not what I'm disputing.
But to go to 70, or even 79% for one (+20%), is still very high! Without any aggression I might add! Because I didn't lose as much using this option at times.

And as you pointed out, my gac taking +8.... is just crazy.
I'm not asking for a 100% discount. I'm just asking for the usual loss to be restored and for this team to be able to play on the last day of the championship....


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Demi-cerveau |

9 month ago

I played at 7.30pm yesterday and I didn't feel any more tired than usual. I don't think there's been any change at all, and I don't think Aymeric is making a daily fuss about the players' loss of fitness.

On the other hand, given the score of your match yesterday, I think it was a match in which you suffered more than usual. Isn't that where we need to look to explain the greater-than-usual loss of fitness?


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lorenzo861 |

9 month ago

Demi-cerveau: Match de mon côté à 19h30 hier, pas de fatigue différente de d'habitude. Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait eu une évolution pour le coup, ni qu'Aymeric traficote chaque jour la perte de physique des joueurs.

Par contre, vu le score de ton match hier, je pense que c'est un match sur lequel tu as plus souffert que d'habitude. N'est ce pas de ce côté là qu'il faut creuser pour expliquer la perte de physique plus importante que d'habitude ?

I don't know. I was only there in the 1st half until my last change. Whether I was there or not, there was very little difference from one match to the next and that line-up could play every 2 days. It was only the aggressiveness that increased the fatigue, and I didn't use it once, seeing how 'physical' it was in the 1st half... but I didn't expect such a difference when I switched back on after the match....

I'm all the more disappointed because we're going into the last day of the season with a chance of staying up and I'm not on the same footing as the others because this team is out and I have to play the "able-bodied" substitutes.


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Zeus |

8 month ago

Now the mini is 20 in endurance
Anything below that is a handicap
I've been saying it for a while


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Demi-cerveau |

8 month ago

A. Benkouider and to think he plays 90 minutes every other day ...

Just because you tell a lie over and over again doesn't make it true, does it?


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Zeus |

8 month ago

Demi-cerveau: A. Benkouider et dire qu'il joue 90 min tous les deux jours ...

Ce n'est pas parce qu'on répète plein de fois un mensonge que ça devient une vérité, hein.

You're not even listening to what I'm saying
Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating than intelligence... intelligence has limits, stupidity does not.


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Demi-cerveau |

8 month ago

The mini is 20 in endurance? The mini for what, venerable expert?

  • for playing every other day? No, that's too much.
  • to play every day? No, it's not enough.
  • to suit you? Maybe not.

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Zeus |

8 month ago

Demi-cerveau: Le mini c'est 20 en endurance ? Le mini pour quoi vénérable expert ?

  • pour jouer tout les deux jours ? Non, c'est trop.
  • pour jouer tous les jours ? Non, ce n'est pas assez.
  • pour te convenir ? Peut être.

No, wrong on all counts!
But I understand that you were responsible for the madness of taking away players' stamina to put it on the NG, so it makes me laugh when I see you in total denial.
Kisses


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L'abbé Stan |

8 month ago

Personally, with 15 in endurance, my players can keep up the pace over a season. Of course I try to make my 5 substitutions in the matches (harder for the championship when the matches are at 16/17h) and as soon as it's possible I do recovery training.


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Demi-cerveau |

8 month ago

It's stupid, with all this we still don't know the 20 endurance, what minimum that could be ....

I don't think I'm responsible for the drop in players' stamina. I've always trained my players with endurance in mind, for example by organising a training camp, which I advise you to try, dear commendatore. Because at the moment I only have one player in my team with very low stamina and .... He comes from your team! Unfortunately, it's too late for him, I can't make up for your mistakes ...


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michbou |

8 month ago

A player with 17 stamina lost 43 for 💯
Over one match


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Zeus |

8 month ago

Demi-cerveau: C'est bête, avec tout ça on sait toujours pas les 20 d'endurance, quel minimum ça peut bien être ....

La baisse d'endurance des joueurs, je ne pense pas en être responsable. J'ai toujours formé mes joueurs avec de l'endurance, en faisant par exemple l'événement de stage de préparation, que je te conseille d'essayer cher commendatore. Parce qu'actuellement je n'ai qu'un seul joueur avec une très faible endurance dans mon équipe et .... Il vient de chez toi ! Pour lui malheureusement

It wasn't a mistake if you try to think a bit
But when I see your nickname I tell myself that thinking isn't really up your street.
Kisses 😘


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Mide |

8 month ago

Zeus: Maintenant le mini c'est 20 en endurance
Tout ce qu'il y a en dessous, c'est un handicap
Je le dis depuis un moment

I have to disagree with you there mate. My boys don't have up to 20 endurance and they play daily


Zeus |

8 month ago

Mide: I have to disagree with you there mate. My boys don't have up to 20 endurance and they play daily

Which ones?


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Blagoje Vidinic |

8 month ago

Zeus: Ce n'était pas une erreur si tu essaies de réfléchir un peu
Mais quand je vois ton pseudo je me dit que réfléchir c'est pas trop dans tes cordes.
Bisous 😘

Be careful with personal attacks!
Firstly, they don't constitute an argument in your debate and, secondly, they only aggravate the situation.
Please don't go any further (even with a .gif!)

This is an official warning prior to sanction.


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lorenzo861 |

8 month ago

In the meantime, thank you to Demi for taking the time to reflect and for having this exchange (yes, her reflection is complete 😉 ) on what may have happened in my case.
Although the answers can only be on a conditional basis, in fact Aymeric may be the only one who can explain what may have happened, it has shed some light on certain aspects for me. So thank you Demi.

Having said that... my problem of the day remains... my usual team can't try to keep up this day in the best conditions because of an exceptional phenomenon.
I'm forced to make do with players with few affinities... So goodbye D1, hello D2, I will at least have taken part in 13 games out of 14. The fans won't be travelling to Tonnay Charente to watch the massacre...
It's a pity that no solution was found... at least a study would have allowed us to fully understand. Thank you
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