Wow well... strength at levels 1, it's going to be a hard struggle. Begginers' win bonus dropped from 64 to 2M 😭🤣🤣🤣

Of course there are 500k per lap but we are very very very far from 64M

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6M almost at the end I think

Always more for the big ones and always less for the small ones....

Maybe it has been reduced because it rewards only one level 1.
And that A45 with the potential players 30-40 of 25 years old maximum who will finish at 90 NG+ in many level 1 wanted to "help/boost" advantages in this way.

No that's on the xg level games gives me 0 gifts! Admin level too but I'm not going to go into this subject....
In fact, even if I'm "considered" as a big club, I don't have the right to say that we do a lot for the big ones?

Nickel 👌

Aaaaah a new one who doesn't like me yet? Mdr
It's crazy to say that I'm never happy when in fact for me it doesn't change anything...
I have the impression here that when you don't act like the little doggie you look like the bad one...

No, you're right, don't 😉 answer, I'll answer more either, by the way, and the forum, I'm going to do without it now, as my friends advise me. Too naussif

I tend to agree with Hasard. They have just been deprived of the free ones... well ok it's okay now we remove the Begginers? Not going to be easy. The Legends Cup brings in a lot more and I find the bonuses of the Legends Cup totally normal but I don't understand a 60M drop for the bonus

I invite you to look at 10 clubs at random in the cup and look at how much a potential 22-25 year old player can be 30-40 years old with characteristic points everywhere.
Once again maybe A45 has tried to reward more level managers than one (winner) of the competition every 3 months

How many participants have a player of this profile in their clubs V. Trifunović who can sell for 30-40M very easily.
To the detriment of a cup winner?
So how many level 1s are helped with "this new system" than the old one?

And 3M I'm very nice

I would rather say a pay to progress.
On the other hand, the possibility that level 1 has to buy millions of stars every 12 hours can be seen more as a pay to win.
But hey, everyone has to eat eh? 😉

You're right, paying to take millions every 12 hours is paid to win. That too, if you say that this is pay to progress then the 16M every 12 hours too

The game is becoming more and more country to win... That's how 😕 it is, I'm jut'ste disappointed that it goes in this direction, but we can't complain too much, the game is free

Yes, I think it makes the game even easier than before.
I think that before there were teams of the day in VF store but today it is possible to have a club with an average rating of 90 in less than a week, in my opinion I think it's an evolution that minimizes the efforts of the VF legends

To hear you say, all you have to do is put money in the game to win. In reality, the store allows Aymeric to spend more time taking care of his game. It is clear that no one would put so much money to have a custom jersey or stadium.
The pay-to-win is limited in the sense that a 99ng team is not enough to beat everyone. And even when you have the best tactics, you can lose.
You just have to remember that it's a game.
Paying to play is not a scandal or a flaw.
I spend several hours a month on this game so I find it normal to put 20 or 30e. Besides I don't have any subscriptions to Netflix or Amazon or anything else... each to his own hobbies and morals.

Yes, I put money for cosmetics and not the store 😂

I started the game again without any help, neither from the game, nor from an agreement. Surely the worst period and yet, with what we call management and patience, I assure you that we can do it.

But what is the game?
To be jealous of your neighbour because he has a big team or to take pleasure in building your own?

Putting money into the game, for a level 1 club, is not enough, it's true. But it still helps if you know what to do with it. And that's the problem I see in this "help* with players who have stats everywhere: in the end it's not going to help the "real" level 1s, but the clubs that already know the game, its possibilities, how it works. The time it takes for a club that is coming to the game to understand what it can do with the store... It will be more at level 1.

I will give you a very concrete example.

L. Rafn

Here is a player who arrived in a level 1 club, with points everywhere. This club had spent money on the store since it had bought the "improved" team for level 1 there. So we were exactly on the profile of clubs that Aymeric wants to help with this type of player, I think. In the end, the player signs elsewhere for 5 million, in a club that already has the knowledge, knows the player's potential, knows how to calculate his final score, knows how to make the reassignment. Everything that the level 1 "true beginner" club does not know how to do in short.

The result of the operation: the level 1 club was helped to the tune of 4.5 million (if 10% fresh) or 2.5 million (if 50% fresh). The club that had the knowledge got back for 5 million a player who is worth maybe 70 or 80 million now. Everything is legal, nothing to complain about it. But did the help go where Aymeric hoped it would? That, in my opinion, is the real problem.

And to think that it was crying because we were giving 5M per turn for the legends cup at level 1 me had found yourself an agreement to help you or manage yourself, you have the manual at your disposal
Never had any financial help and even less a cup
The game and the harmony of the game is to make your club climb with the sweat of your brow and not with the help of real money
Today we find ourselves with level 1s as strong as levels 10 who took time to make their teams
When I talk to level 1 today to learn the game, you need all their data, fortunately there are some rules like having an assistant coach 80 at level 2

And again, you can get around this "rule" via an agreement, you just have to release the 80+ staff and they get it back:p

In fact, it's the middle ground that should be found, help level 1 players to progress more or less quickly but by staying in proportions relative to their level, i.e. a team corresponding to reality when you start a game

A time when you join an agreement, regularly participate in the agreement forum... and made you finance your infrastructure? ...; p

Saying what you think doesn't necessarily mean jealousy friends
But there are things that don't make sense, that's all

To compare between my beginnings of the game 10 years ago, and yesterday when I resumed, I must admit that the beginnings are much more limited than before and thus much more frustrating.

The regular means are much more limited (the stadium no longer brings in anything, and the spectators take too long to assemble, the TV rights are no longer worth much)

The infrastructures and support by the agreements are extremely limited (I imagine due to abuses but the observation is there). To have a CDF 10 you need at least 18 months-2 years with an ultra solid base. Without this base, I imagine it takes even longer.

The transfer market is even more restricted, the 10% tax is huge, the 50% tax for players under 56 days. The free ones that no longer exist.

Access to staff transfer is only accessible at level 2, so finally the training and the side are still limited for the newcomers.

Finally, the help at the beginning is ok, but in the end it's just a drop in the bucket, since the level 1-3 infrastructures really don't bring in much, and the CDF is frankly useless until level 6-7.

Be careful, I'm not saying that everything is bad, but I have to admit that everything has been done so that the new ones struggle much more than the old ones, and the use of the Vfstore is a hell of a breath of fresh air.

VF finally works a little against the grain compared to current games. Where in most management games, access to resources for newcomers is facilitated, here it has become more rigid.

I am no one to say which direction to take, but the observation is there.

Kisses to the jealous!

Even a club that is just starting out is rich, it is impossible for it to face great competition with legendary clubs in three or four months.
Even a club that enters the first division, the first mission is not to win it, but to make sure that it can stay up. It's not with just real money that you can build a club similar to Real Madrid or Paris Saint Germain in less than two years.
Above all, it's not jealousy but just a constant

Personally, I'm rather deg but not for the reasons you think. Just the ones who took a lot of advantage from the free players, who caught an entire team of 90+ for some... and I who learned late that there were free (good) books for me, the best I have or take is a GAC 75 in my final year. Already quite a lot, of course. But suddenly the difference in level between the guy who grabbed 13 90+ng and me is huge, yet there is no merit. There will be a big gap with the "level 1" like that

The idea of giving a little to everyone is not bad, even if I won a lot with it 😅

Oh yes you made two naughty ones lol.

😍😂

Personally I managed to win a begginers... it helped me a lot

Well, it gives you a boost, but if you make bad choices afterwards, it breaks quickly. It's like people who win the lottery and end up bankrupt. We need to invest in young people and infrastructure for the future.

It's true, but I realized it not long ago so I made a bad investment. I have more or less managed to make up for my mistakes, and I am starting to train

I'm so old on the game that the beginners cup didn't exist when I started 😁😁😁