Wow well... strength at levels 1, it's going to be a hard struggle. Begginers' win bonus dropped from 64 to 2M 😭🤣🤣🤣

Of course there are 500k per lap but we are very very very far from 64M

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6M almost at the end I think

Always more for the big ones and always less for the small ones....

Le vrai stéphanois: Certes il y a 500k par tour mais on est très très très loin des 64M

So 500k€ for each victory that allows you to go to the next round?

Maybe it has been reduced because it rewards only one level 1.
And that A45 with the potential players 30-40 of 25 years old maximum who will finish at 90 NG+ in many level 1 wanted to "help/boost" advantages in this way.

hazard14: Toujours plus pour les gros et toujours moins pour les petits....

And yet when we take the time to read a lot of your interventions on the forum, the game doesn't seem to be doing you any favors, while for many you are considered a big club ... So I find it difficult to understand this intervention

No that's on the xg level games gives me 0 gifts! Admin level too but I'm not going to go into this subject....
In fact, even if I'm "considered" as a big club, I don't have the right to say that we do a lot for the big ones?

Nickel 👌

hazard14: Non ça c'est sur le jeux niveau xg me fait 0 cadeau ! Niveau admin aussi mais je vais pas rentrer dans ce sujet....
En faite même si je suis "considéré " comme gros club j'ai pas le droit de dire qu'on en fait beaucoup pour les gros?

In any case, you'll never be happy. It shows, it is known, and we deal with it 🙂

Aaaaah a new one who doesn't like me yet? Mdr
It's crazy to say that I'm never happy when in fact for me it doesn't change anything...
I have the impression here that when you don't act like the little doggie you look like the bad one...

hazard14: Aaaaah un nouveau qui m'aime pas encore ? Mdr
C'est fou de dire que je suis jamais content alors que en faite pour moi ça change rien...
J'ai l'impression ici que quand on fait pas le petit toutou on passe pour le mauvais...

It's sure first of all there are no clubs active in these cups 64M often goes into the water

hazard14: Aaaaah un nouveau qui m'aime pas encore ? Mdr
C'est fou de dire que je suis jamais content alors que en faite pour moi ça change rien...
J'ai l'impression ici que quand on fait pas le petit toutou on passe pour le mauvais...

So there's no point in me replying to your first message.
It won't add much to the conversation.
Happy Sunday to you

No, you're right, don't 😉 answer, I'll answer more either, by the way, and the forum, I'm going to do without it now, as my friends advise me. Too naussif

I tend to agree with Hasard. They have just been deprived of the free ones... well ok it's okay now we remove the Begginers? Not going to be easy. The Legends Cup brings in a lot more and I find the bonuses of the Legends Cup totally normal but I don't understand a 60M drop for the bonus

I invite you to look at 10 clubs at random in the cup and look at how much a potential 22-25 year old player can be 30-40 years old with characteristic points everywhere.
Once again maybe A45 has tried to reward more level managers than one (winner) of the competition every 3 months

Socrate: Je t’invite à regarder 10 clubs au hasard dans la coupe et de regarder combien on un joueur de 22-25 ans potentiel 30-40 avec des points de caractéristiques partout.
Encore une fois peut être qu’A45 a essayer de récompenser plus de managers niveau qu’un seul (gagnant) de la compétition tous les 3 mois

Yep, but I don't see the connection with 22-25 year olds with characteristics everywhere?

How many participants have a player of this profile in their clubs V. Trifunović who can sell for 30-40M very easily.
To the detriment of a cup winner?
So how many level 1s are helped with "this new system" than the old one?

Le vrai stéphanois: Ouep mais je ne vois pas le rapport avec les 22-25 ans avec des caractéristiques partout ?

Resale

Le vrai stéphanois: Ouep mais je ne vois pas le rapport avec les 22-25 ans avec des caractéristiques partout ?

Balancing

Socrate: Combien des participants ont dans leurs clubs un joueur de ce profil V. Trifunović qui peut se vendre 30-40M très facilement.
Au détriment d’un vainqueur d’une coupe ?
Du coup combien de niveau 1 sont aidé avec « ce nouveau système » que l’ancien ?

Excuse me??? 😂 They sell at this price if they do the reallocation before yes lol, so pay to win.

Otherwise it doesn't exceed 3M

And 3M I'm very nice

I would rather say a pay to progress.
On the other hand, the possibility that level 1 has to buy millions of stars every 12 hours can be seen more as a pay to win.
But hey, everyone has to eat eh? 😉

Le vrai stéphanois: Et 3M je suis très gentil

If you have stars, then you are someone who adheres to this system of the blind.
You ask them and you reassign yourself.

You're right, paying to take millions every 12 hours is paid to win. That too, if you say that this is pay to progress then the 16M every 12 hours too

The game is becoming more and more country to win... That's how 😕 it is, I'm jut'ste disappointed that it goes in this direction, but we can't complain too much, the game is free

Baldie: Donc 500k€ pour chaque victoire qui permet de passer au tour suivant ?

Yes, that's 6 I think so 3M + 2, we'll say 5M for the winner

hazard14: Aaaaah un nouveau qui m'aime pas encore ? Mdr
C'est fou de dire que je suis jamais content alors que en faite pour moi ça change rien...
J'ai l'impression ici que quand on fait pas le petit toutou on passe pour le mauvais...

Well at the same time you always have a negative comment ... After all, when you see level 1 teams with teams worthy of level 8 or 9, it's because they are still helped.

villa: Ben en même temps t as toujours un commentaire négatif … après quand tu vois des niveau 1 avec des équipes digne de niveau 8 9 , c est qu ils sont quand même aidé.

Yes but it's by paying for it, like VF Store

Yes, I think it makes the game even easier than before.
I think that before there were teams of the day in VF store but today it is possible to have a club with an average rating of 90 in less than a week, in my opinion I think it's an evolution that minimizes the efforts of the VF legends

Metre: Oui je crois que ça rend le jeu encore plus facile qu'avant.
Je pense qu'avant il n'y avait des équipes du jour dans VF store mais aujourd'hui se possible d'avoir un club note moyenne 90 en moins d'une semaine, selon moi je pense que c'est une évolution qui minimise les efforts des légendes du VF

Oh well, that's for sure

Metre: Oui je crois que ça rend le jeu encore plus facile qu'avant.
Je pense qu'avant il n'y avait des équipes du jour dans VF store mais aujourd'hui se possible d'avoir un club note moyenne 90 en moins d'une semaine, selon moi je pense que c'est une évolution qui minimise les efforts des légendes du VF

I agree I've seen newcomers at the end of a season have a better team than players who have been playing for several years or even decades all this for a few tickets put on the game it was quite sad

To hear you say, all you have to do is put money in the game to win. In reality, the store allows Aymeric to spend more time taking care of his game. It is clear that no one would put so much money to have a custom jersey or stadium.
The pay-to-win is limited in the sense that a 99ng team is not enough to beat everyone. And even when you have the best tactics, you can lose.
You just have to remember that it's a game.
Paying to play is not a scandal or a flaw.
I spend several hours a month on this game so I find it normal to put 20 or 30e. Besides I don't have any subscriptions to Netflix or Amazon or anything else... each to his own hobbies and morals.

Yes, I put money for cosmetics and not the store 😂

Teddy: A vous entendre il suffit de mettre de l'argent dans le jeu pour gagner. Dans la réalité, le store permet à Aymeric de passer plus de temps à s'occuper de son jeu. Il est clair que personne ne mettrais autant d argent pour avoir un maillot ou un stade custom.
Le pay to win est limité dans le sens où une équipe de 99ng ne suffit pas à battre tout le monde. Et même quand tu as la meilleure tactique tu peux perdre.
Il faut juste se rappeler que c'est un jeu.
Payer pour jouer n'est pas un

Ah but you do what you want teddy that's not the problem but when you see the team you have in 4 months compared to others who have taken years to have the same it can be difficult to digest because when we started (and start again for my part in 2019) there weren't as many advantages to start well, The VF Store was not shaped this way for example, after I understand that the team doesn't do everything but it helps a lot

I started the game again without any help, neither from the game, nor from an agreement. Surely the worst period and yet, with what we call management and patience, I assure you that we can do it.

But what is the game?
To be jealous of your neighbour because he has a big team or to take pleasure in building your own?

Uzzego27: Ah mais tu fais ce que tu désires teddy c’est pas la le soucis mais quand tu vois l’équipe que tu as en 4 mois comparé a d’autres qui ont mis des années a avoir la même ça peut être difficile a digérer car nous quand on a commencé (et recommencer pour ma part en 2019) y’avait pas autant d’avantages pour bien débuter, le vf store n’était pas façonné de cette façon par exemple, après je conçois que l’équipe ne fais pas tout mais elle aide grandement

Many have made their teams on the free, the unrestricted agreement aids, the federation bonus,.. We always come up with the same refrains that VF was hard that it takes you 10 years to have a team. On my side, I don't see 50 teams showing the same result as me with the store so it must not be that simple. It stimulates you a little adversity, unless you want to keep to yourself by winning easily against level 1 or 2 with 20ng.
You quickly forget that a team with a cdf lv10 can make a team with 0 in a short time. Where we row to climb the levels.
The store is an accelerator, it allows the game to last and the players to have advantages. You are free to use it too. Everyone is free to want to play as they want.

Blagoje Vidinic: Mais c'est quoi le jeu ?
Jalouser son voisin parce qu'il a une grosse équipe ou prendre du plaisir à construire la sienne ?

We agree, the goal is to manage your team not that of others.

Putting money into the game, for a level 1 club, is not enough, it's true. But it still helps if you know what to do with it. And that's the problem I see in this "help* with players who have stats everywhere: in the end it's not going to help the "real" level 1s, but the clubs that already know the game, its possibilities, how it works. The time it takes for a club that is coming to the game to understand what it can do with the store... It will be more at level 1.

I will give you a very concrete example.

L. Rafn

Here is a player who arrived in a level 1 club, with points everywhere. This club had spent money on the store since it had bought the "improved" team for level 1 there. So we were exactly on the profile of clubs that Aymeric wants to help with this type of player, I think. In the end, the player signs elsewhere for 5 million, in a club that already has the knowledge, knows the player's potential, knows how to calculate his final score, knows how to make the reassignment. Everything that the level 1 "true beginner" club does not know how to do in short.

The result of the operation: the level 1 club was helped to the tune of 4.5 million (if 10% fresh) or 2.5 million (if 50% fresh). The club that had the knowledge got back for 5 million a player who is worth maybe 70 or 80 million now. Everything is legal, nothing to complain about it. But did the help go where Aymeric hoped it would? That, in my opinion, is the real problem.

Demi-cerveau: Mettre de l'argent dans le jeu, pour un club de niveau 1, ne suffit pas, c'est vrai. Mais ça aide bien quand même si on sait quoi en faire. Et c'est le problème que je vois dans cette "aide* avec des joueurs qui ont des stats de partout : à la fin ça va pas aider les "vrais" niveaux 1, mais les clubs qui connaissent déjà le jeu, ses possibilités, son fonctionnement. Le temps qu'un club qui déboule sur le jeu comprenne ce qu'il peut en faire avec le store ... Il sera plus au niveau 1.

True 👏

Demi-cerveau: Mettre de l'argent dans le jeu, pour un club de niveau 1, ne suffit pas, c'est vrai. Mais ça aide bien quand même si on sait quoi en faire. Et c'est le problème que je vois dans cette "aide* avec des joueurs qui ont des stats de partout : à la fin ça va pas aider les "vrais" niveaux 1, mais les clubs qui connaissent déjà le jeu, ses possibilités, son fonctionnement. Le temps qu'un club qui déboule sur le jeu comprenne ce qu'il peut en faire avec le store ... Il sera plus au niveau 1.

Buying and reselling is based on the same things, they buy low to sell at a high price. There is always a winner and a loser in all transactions. This kind of player requires 10e to be redefined. How do you take this data into account? Quite sincerely, the mdj would offer 99ng players for 5 euros, I think most would do it and me first.

The problem does not come from the managers knowing that if you are a club director and you are offered mbappe for 5m euro you will not ask yourself the question.

But I understand that it may bother some.
By the way, players are taxed at 50%, so if it's really to boost the level1 I don't really understand.

And to think that it was crying because we were giving 5M per turn for the legends cup at level 1 me had found yourself an agreement to help you or manage yourself, you have the manual at your disposal
Never had any financial help and even less a cup
The game and the harmony of the game is to make your club climb with the sweat of your brow and not with the help of real money
Today we find ourselves with level 1s as strong as levels 10 who took time to make their teams
When I talk to level 1 today to learn the game, you need all their data, fortunately there are some rules like having an assistant coach 80 at level 2

And again, you can get around this "rule" via an agreement, you just have to release the 80+ staff and they get it back:p

Arazosv: Et encore, cette "règle" tu peux la contourner, t'as juste à libérer le staff 80+ et il le récupère :p

Bug misery,

In fact, it's the middle ground that should be found, help level 1 players to progress more or less quickly but by staying in proportions relative to their level, i.e. a team corresponding to reality when you start a game

Uzzego27: En fait c’est le juste milieu qu’il faudrait trouver aider les niveaux 1 a progresser plus ou moins rapidement mais en restant dans des proportions relatives a leur niveau, c’est a dire une équipe correspondant a la réalité quand tu commences un jeu

That's exactly it, the old system was like that but I'm talking about a time that the less than 100 seasons can't know unfortunately

A time when you join an agreement, regularly participate in the agreement forum... and made you finance your infrastructure? ...; p

Sun's: Un temps où tu rejoignez une entente, participer régulièrement au forum de l'entente ...et te faisait financé tes infrastructures ? ...;p

Oh no, I was never financed my personal infrastructure, I was mainly helped to know which ones were the most important and then how to have the money to have it, but honestly never, never, was I financed anything, after yes there was a time when in some agreements it helped, it's not wrong but I never ate that bread.