This is a call to you my fellow novices of the game, stop selling your players (under priced) that the game offers you, I sold 1 from my home today at 2m, the tax is 50% PA. I have the impression that they are not intended to be sold, and that it is to help you get back on your feet financially. You receive a lot of interesting offers, I know, but these offers are nothing compared to the real value of your players, believe me. Keep them for up to 160 days before selling them or pay them yourself at the store. You have had a huge chance, you must not waste it. I also appeal to the presidents of the agreements to pass on these messages in your respective agreements to warn your novices and protect their interest. I think it is your duty as president to protect your members, their interest and against scams. Thank you for your understanding! Best regards Kirikou!

If Aymeric really wanted to block this kind of practice, he would prevent the reallocation for players with less than 60 Potentials. But once again, as this practice is managed haphazardly, we put a bandage on it with a 50% tax that serves no purpose. It's ridiculous.

Be careful Kirikou, you're not going to make any friends at the African Union.

Most of them are multis, they know very well what they are doing :)

Demi-cerveau: Attention Kirikou, tu vas pas te faire que des copains à l'african union.

Excuse me half but if an admin publicly accuses an agreement on the VFo at ease, the rest of the managers will not hold back... In this case it would be b***l and you will not be able to blame anyone because you have already started

Akram: Excuse moi demi mais si un admin accuse publiquement une entente sur le VFo a l'aise, le reste des managers vont pas ce retenir...

Dans ce cas sa serait le b***l et tu ne pourra reprocher rien a qui que ce soit car tu as déjà commencé

We're fed up with the Omerta. Stop burying your head in the sand. Everyone knows that nothing is ever implemented.

No, but let's be clear, without spending €10 these players are worth nothing or not much. So the message here is: either you keep him, but without paying €10, you won't get better than an average player for whom you refused very good offers, or you buy stars and spend €10 to make him a good player. The vast majority of VF managers play without paying, so why should they refuse these good offers if they don't intend to release the CB? In itself, what's the harm? I bought a player like that for €10M yesterday, in the wake of his sale, the level 1 club bought 2 players from NG 76 and NG 81. Did he get scammed then? I think he is very happy to have sold it for 10M and to have been able to buy 2 good players in exchange for a NG 47 player and not to have to pay 10€ in a game that he is discovering. And then, as the game sometimes distributes big NG players (like him recently: I. Rush) they may have more luck next time. We come across as big bad guys, but in the end the level 1s also come out winners. Everyone gets their money's worth. The "losers", if there are any, are those who don't want to pay and I understand them. It's annoying for them especially.

How can you be so stupid, damn it?

Alexandre67310: La plupart sont des multis, ils savent très bien ce qu’ils font :)

How to be so fucking stupid

There is some truth and some falsehood in all this…a lot of truth though…

sora02: On en a marre de l'Omerta

Arrêtes un peu de jouer à l'autruche

Tous le monde le sait, jamais rien n'est appliqué.

So I hope this applies to everyone too :) Peace

Is it really fake? That is the question!

Nicularo: Non mais qu'on soit bien clair, sans dépenser 10€ ces joueurs ne valent rien ou pas grand chose.
Donc là le message est : soit tu le garde, mais sans payer 10€, tu n'auras pas mieux qu'un joueur moyen pour lequel tu as refusé de très belles offres, soit tu t'achètes des étoiles et tu dépenses 10€ pour en faire un bon joueur.

La grande majorité des managers de VF jouent sans payer, alors pourquoi ils devraient refuser ces belles offres s'ils n'ont pas l'intention de sortir la CB ?

So to summarize, you bought a player who potentially has 90NG+ (A player generated by the game, not from basic training) This player has an initial potential value of 50M. In a few days/weeks, the entire market of 80-90M players will be worth a pittance because of this type of change. Since you threw 10 balls into the game, you have a good conscience for having paid this player 10m at a level 1 so that he can go play. If this message is not hypocrisy, I don't know what it is. I wonder what McCarthy thinks about it, who spends hundreds of € (50 stars + 30m per player) each month to pay store players who are not even equal to those who come out by the dozen at level 1 and who are bought

Sorry there are some cut pieces... As we can't edit, some passages are quite illegible

It's probably thanks to guys like imc that the game continues, so take it easy on the anti-stores...

Aymeric may have found a way to encourage managers to go through the VFStore (and I think it's so interesting). Why does it bother you if others spend €10 or €100?

You didn't understand my words.

*Without wanting to get involved in what is none of my business, his player is potentially a 25-year-old 82 NG who is not versatile... He will neither reach 90 NG nor 50M in sales...

Soon the players put by Aymeric will be at the origin of the 3rd world war with Sora...

Or yet another flaw or cheat :)

It is certain that the game will not last thanks to the cheaters who are rather its cancer.

@Nicularo I know to believe that it is a scam because what you may not know, your 10m, the guy only got 5m because the other 5m went to agent fees. (Tax = 50% of the purchase price)

Do you see where the cheaters are? 1. Aymerick announces that he has hidden players under the rating 2. He created this type of player himself who are not related to anything in the tables. 3. Everyone can buy them, just open your eyes and look a little. On the last players the ratings seem much lower to me so Aymeric is going in the direction of reducing the importance of the players.

We will wait for Aymeric's response but as it stands what is happening is complete nonsense. Players with 49 potential who turn into 99ng for a small ticket in the store, there is no longer any management of his club and training.

Socrate: *Sans vouloir me mêler de ce qui me regarde pas son joueur est potentiellement un 82 NG de 25 ans non polyvalent … Il atteindra ni 90 NG ni 50M en vente …

He still has a progression coefficient of 16. 82NG + 16. You remove about 4 on reassignment given the multiple positions. He will have this at the end of 26 years. 92NG at the end of 26 years, on the table we are initially at the fifty million mark

Completely agree with Skyz.

Hence the importance of endurance to stand out! Aymeric relaunches training 😀

It ruins all the work of the training clubs. And tomorrow if we have 300 new NG90+ on the market? Will it plummet? Good trainers will not be rewarded. And it is not going in the right direction for a management game.

sora02: Il a encore 16 de coef de progression. 82NG + 16. Tu retires environ 4 a la réattrib au vu des multipostes.

Il aura ceci a la fin des 26 ans.

92NG a la fin des 26 ans, sur le tableau on est bien initialement à la cinquantaire de millions

My bad, being a 25 year old player I didn't think he was still progressing 👍🏾

Skyz: On va attendre la réponse d'Aymeric mais en l'état c'est du grand n'importe quoi ce qui se passe.
Des joueurs 49 de potentiel qui se transforme en 99ng contre un petit billet dans le store, il n'y a plus aucune gestion de son club et des entrainements.

Especially for players generated by the hundreds for level 1 The crux of the problem is not that we should benefit from the store, but that the innovation produced goes against all the work carried out by managers to train players, buy them or resell them It is much deeper than 3-4 players here and there.

Socrate: Au temps pour moi, étant un joueur de 25 ans je ne pensais pas qu’il progressait encore 👍🏾

Well in a way you are right... If hundreds of 90NG are injected into the game, it will no longer be worth 50m...

There are some unwelcome new features in this game, but here we are on a gold medal... These players are wanted by the GM, it is not possible that it is a bug at this level. So the goal is that big clubs buy them from level 1s who do not know what they have in their hands (or worse fake accounts that surely appear), then pay to reassign the players. The guys are happy, they have big players for 10 bucks, the store is running at full speed (€€€) and those who don't have time to look for these players and don't want to pay are still disadvantaged in the fairness of the game. I can see the comments coming "but no, we're not in a pay to win, my tactic blah blah blah"... But still, it's tough not to be able to compete and take ages to have a decent team on our side... Personally, I put 10 euros into the game once, I made money with sports betting and I had the means to recruit a lot of store players. Well, I clearly significantly increased the level of my team when it would have taken me 2 years to get to the same level without the store...

Can you please stop polluting my post with your off-topic comments?

Akram: Excuse moi demi mais si un admin accuse publiquement une entente sur le VFo a l'aise, le reste des managers vont pas ce retenir...

Dans ce cas sa serait le b***l et tu ne pourra reprocher rien a qui que ce soit car tu as déjà commencé

Akram president! No one will touch you. Jokes aside, what you are saying is nothing but the truth. Demi certainly has these reasons, but nothing justifies such public defamation as an administrator, what is more, against an agreement.

King: Akram président ! Personne te touchera.
Blague à part, ce que tu avances n’est rien d’autres que la vérité. Demi à certainement ces raisons, mais rien ne justifie une telle diffamation publique en tant qu’administrateur, qui plus est, à l’encontre d’une entente.

Agreement with a dissolution to its credit and a plethora of deleted multiple accounts.

I advise you all to remain restrained. The next escapade I will close the topic,

Kirikou: Vous pouvez arrêter de poluer mon post svp avec vos hors sujets ?

Very nice initiative my friend, you are right to alert the novices.

Marcus Aurelius: Entente ayant une dissolution à son actif et pléthore de multi comptes supprimés.

Off topic, really VF is magical ***

sora02: Donc je résume, t'as acheté un joueur qui a potentiellement 90NG+
(Un joueur généré par le jeu, non issu de la formation de base)

Ce joueur a une valeur potentiel initial de 50M. Dans quelques jours/semaines finalement l'ensemble du marché des joueurs 80-90M vaudra une misère a cause de ce type de changement.

Comme t'as balancé 10 balles dans le jeu, t'as bonne conscience d'avoir payé ce joueur 10m a un niveau 1 pour qu'il aille faire joujou.

Si c'est pas de l'hypocrisie ce message

The market is already going to hell, these few extra players don't help, but they weigh nothing compared to the number of NG 90+ that we now find. It has become very easy to train 90+ players by buying a young player +/- 15M. Today, a 27-year-old player (J1) of NG 90-92 is not worth more than 30M. And the more it goes, the more it will drop, because the number of 90+ keeps increasing. I bought him for 10M but I have to go to the checkout and spend 100 stars, believe me, it's not the deal of the century either. To listen to you, it's a robbery... No, it's just a good deal, which keeps the Store running, which enriches level 1s and which benefits those who pay. The Store is good but it's useless. When special players are too strong, we complain, and it's readjusted. There's a very strong core here, anti-Store. Anti Pay2Win. If someone wants to play with their CB and make a big team by one means or another, what's the problem? I'm not going to come and overshadow your big competitions... And they're only NG 90+ drowned in the mass, they're not stronger than those who are trained everywhere, are not even versatile and are already older than those who are finishing their training with a similar NG. And for your information, iMc is like me and others: he adapts. He saw this opportunity and he seized it. Once again, I don't reallocate until we have the end of the story. If it is a proven bug, then an administrator can remove the players from me, I am not even asking for a refund because it would make a hole in the budget of the clubs I bought them from. I would have lost money, no big deal. Signed the hypocrite

Nicularo: Le marché est déjà entrain de se casser la gueule, ces quelques joueurs en plus n'aident pas, mais ne pèsent rien comparé au nombre de NG 90+ qu'on trouve désormais.
Il est devenu très facile de former des 90+ en achetant un jeune joueur +/- 15M.

Aujourd'hui, un joueur de 27 ans (J1) de NG 90-92 ne vaut pas plus de 30M. Et plus ça ira, plus ça baissera, parce que le nombre de 90+ ne cesse d'augmenter.

Moi je l'ai acheté 10M mais je dois passer à la caisse et dépenser 100 étoiles,

+1

Nicularo: Le marché est déjà entrain de se casser la gueule, ces quelques joueurs en plus n'aident pas, mais ne pèsent rien comparé au nombre de NG 90+ qu'on trouve désormais.
Il est devenu très facile de former des 90+ en achetant un jeune joueur +/- 15M.

Aujourd'hui, un joueur de 27 ans (J1) de NG 90-92 ne vaut pas plus de 30M. Et plus ça ira, plus ça baissera, parce que le nombre de 90+ ne cesse d'augmenter.

Moi je l'ai acheté 10M mais je dois passer à la caisse et dépenser 100 étoiles,

Yes, the market is down. However, it is not at rock bottom either, as we will have in a few weeks if this kind of innovation is not quickly addressed. Besides, if you rushed to buy these players, there is a reason. On the other hand, if you want me to hold an anti-Store position, you are targeting the wrong people, and are off topic. I think that until now the store was rather well balanced. Obtaining good players, with a limited impact on the overall economy of the game. To tell the truth, I find it very strange to pretend to be a good Samaritan who participates in a virtuous model, when this is absolutely not the case. And considering that this will not impact the game or the economy, while we are talking about hundreds of players assigned to level 1 (hello multi-account which is going to explode, OH IT'S ALREADY EXPLODING THEN) and which are generated while there are barely 2000 active players, is clearly bad faith.

The game seems so much easier with some computer skills and good relationships...

Jeffus tuchuss: Le jeu paraît tellement plus simple avec quelques relations en informatique et de bonnes relations …

The game seems so much easier with some computer knowledge and good relationships... **

Akram: Excuse moi demi mais si un admin accuse publiquement une entente sur le VFo a l'aise, le reste des managers vont pas ce retenir...

Dans ce cas sa serait le b***l et tu ne pourra reprocher rien a qui que ce soit car tu as déjà commencé

I will limit myself to pointing out the two clubs that intervened on the subject and bought such players for a pittance. It so happens that they are members of the African Union. Like Kirikou.

Demi-cerveau: Je me borne à pointer les deux clubs qui sont intervenus sur le sujet et qui ont achetés de tels joueurs une misère. Il se trouve qu'ils sont membres de l'african union. Comme Kirikou.

Thug!

Marcus Aurelius: Entente ayant une dissolution à son actif et pléthore de multi comptes supprimés.

The archive also shows others who see further but not cheating in front of their eyes. That also cost 300 million in fines for their agreement. So you are very poorly placed to give lessons.

Michbou you can close the topic

Kirikou: L'archive montres également d'autres qui voient plus loin mais pas des triches devant leur yeux. Qu'à également coûter 300 millions d'amende à leur entente.
Donc vous êtes très mal placé pour donner de leçon.

It's true that comparing a guy's auto-click alone to a major and institutionalized cheat leading to a dissolution is relevant. 🤣

Marcus Aurelius: Entente ayant une dissolution à son actif et pléthore de multi comptes supprimés.

Hi friend, I completely understand your point, but it seems that the agreement was punished in proportion to the offence, that is to say, they paid for the facts you mentioned. It is therefore not appropriate in my opinion to continue to constantly rub salt in the wound to remind them of the offences. As I will also defend your agreement, when anyone takes advantage of the situation to belittle you by recalling your past. They have changed and want to move on. The honorable Michbou is absolutely right to say that a little restraint is needed. Restraint begins by refraining from hurting others and not taking advantage of one's position to initiate such acts In respect in order to preserve conviviality if not to ensure it by being the guarantor of this.

King: Salut l’ami, je comprends tout à fait ta remarque, mais, il semblerait que l’entente a eu une sanction à la hauteur de l’infraction, c’est-à-dire, qu’ils ont payé les faits dont tu fais mention. Il n’est donc à mon sens pas convenable de continuer à remuer constamment le couteau dans la plaie pour leur faire rappeler les infractions. Comme je défendrai également ton entente, lorsque quiconque profite de la situation pour vous rabaisser en rappelant vos antécédents.
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Amen!