Kynlux |

20 gün önce

Following a discussion on the Community forum, and what came out of it, I've come here to make a request to add Palestine 🇵🇸 to the list of VF Nations. It's about time.
Argument 1: If Macau, Taiwan etc... are on VF, there's no reason why Palestine shouldn't be. It's a question of representation.
Argument 2: In the event of conflict between two parties, not allowing one of them to be unrepresented isn't very fair. Question of inclusion.
OK, I've only got two arguments (without giving too much away hahaha)
I know, it's only a game, and Aymeric has a hand in it, he can do what he likes. Although I hope he'll listen to my arguments and allow the clubs that want to represent Palestine to do so.
Thank you in advance for your attention to my request and a very good day to you all ;)


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MilKun |

20 gün önce

An excellent proposal! Especially as the French government's recognition of the Palestinian state makes it even more meaningful.


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Kynlux |

20 gün önce

PS: History has taught us that not all Germans were Na*i... I say that because I can already see the excuse for "Hamas" arriving as big as a house.
There are sons of bitches everywhere, that's life.


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Magikcats |

20 gün önce

Kynlux: PS : L'histoire nous appris que tout les allemands n'étaient pas Na*i... je dis ca psk je vois déjà excuse de "Hamas" arriver gros comme une maison.
Il y'a des fils de pute partout c'est la vie

Palestine and Hamas are two different things, you're right to point that out.


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Jean-Guy Matou |

17 gün önce

And once that's done, what difference will it make to the game?
Because this is a game, isn't it?
Is there a Palestinian team IRL? And Palestinian football clubs? (I should point out that these are real questions, not "bullshit", that's what I'm wondering!

(I'm going to search the net for answers before you do! )


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Kynlux |

17 gün önce

Jean-Guy Matou: Et une fois que ce serait fait, ça va changer quoi au jeu ?
Car ici c'est un jeu nan ?
IRL y a une équipe Palestinienne ? Et des clubs de foot Palestiniens ? (je précise que ce sont des vraies questions, pas du ''foutage de gueule" c'est ce que je me demande !

*** dsl j'ai vu que ça existait ... je ne savais pas !

(je vais chercher sur le net pour avoir des réponses avant les vôtres ! )

So the "it's only a game" argument is frankly counter-productive, because it's precisely because it's a game that I'm taking the liberty of suggesting it.
And it's not as if Palestine has complete freedom over what it can do in Palestine. Creating football clubs has been the least of their worries for a few years now lol so having a representation on the game seems important to me.
NB: Find out about the creation of the "Palestino" club in Chile, and you'll understand why there are no clubs in Palestine.
If the fact that they don't have an IRL team is an argument, do you want the list of all the "Nations" on VF that don't have IRL clubs?
I have NO problem with these Nations, I just want one more. Palestine.
In a nutshell. Un OUI ou un NON de kan part d'Aymeric ou un Admin, me suffitira ;) c'est qu'un jeu, je survivrai 😉


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OMstar83 |

17 gün önce

For the creation of a Palestinian sporting nationality.

And, because it's important to me, New Caledonian nationality would also be appreciated. And, yes, there are clubs 'IRL' (with a league, the 'super league', a New Caledonian cup) that also take part in the OFC Champions League, a national team, a federation and the country is recognised by FIFA. So that's all there is to it ^^


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Kynlux |

16 gün önce

OMstar83: Pour la création de la nationalité sportive palestinienne. Même si je trouve qu'un unique argument était suffisant à légitimer son existence sur VF, à savoir que la Palestine soit reconnue comme nationalité sportive par la FIFA. (mais comme dit souvent, c'est le boss qui décide, ça reste un jeu, et le sien surtout)

Et, parce que, mine de rien, c'est important pour moi, celle de la Nouvelle Calédonie serait également appréciée. Et, oui, il y a des clubs "IRL" (avec un championnat, la "super l...

I totally support your idea for New Caledonia ;)
But I opened this topic for Palestine, and I have the impression that we're getting a bit lost by mixing everything up in the same topic, I don't know if you understand what I mean.


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OMstar83 |

16 gün önce

Kynlux: Je soutiens totalement ton idée pour la Nouvelle Calédonie ;)
Mais j'ai ouvert ce topic pour la Palestine, et j'ai l'impression qu'on se perd un peu en mélangent tout dans un même topic, je ne sais pas si tu comprends ce que je veux dire.

Oh no, but I'll just say this quickly, if we each open our own topic for our own country, I don't think we're out of the woods xD

Besides, I know in advance that he won't add New Caledonia, it's a bit of a lost cause. A tiny little island in the middle of nowhere that nobody gives a damn about, except when there are riots or cyclones... well. It's a shame for the islanders, but that's how it often is, we get overlooked a bit ^^.


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Kynlux |

16 gün önce

He added Macoa;) ya de l'espoir mon ami😉


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Kynlux |

16 gün önce

OMstar83: Ah non mais je glisse ça vite fait, si on ouvre chacun son sujet pour son pays, on est pas sorti je crois xD

Et puis, je sais d'avance qu'il n'ajoutera pas la Nouvelle Calédonie, c'est un peu peine perdue. Une toute petite île paumée dont tout le monde se fout, sauf quand y'a des émeutes ou des cyclones... bon. Dommage pour les iliens mais c'est souvent comme ça, on nous zappe un peu ^^

Imagine toi qu'on me demande encore parfois si on a l'électricité, si on vit dans des cases, si on a des ...

You have to believe😁


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Jean-Guy Matou |

16 gün önce

Let's just say that I think the Palestinians need food and security more than a flag logo on a game like VF, and that's what I'm trying to say here, it's derisory above all! It's like putting flags on town halls, it's basically useless!
But that's my opinion ...


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Kynlux |

16 gün önce

Jean-Guy Matou: Disons que je pense que les palestiniens ont plus besoin de manger et de sécurité, qu'un logo du drapeau sur un jeu comme VF, c'est ça que je veux surtout dire, ici c'est dérisoir surtout ! C'est comme mettre des drapeaux sur des mairies, grosso modo ça sert à rien !
Mais ça c'est mon avis ...

Maybe if people put as much energy into defending their own ideas and opposing the ideas of others the world would be a better place ;)


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Kynlux |

16 gün önce

Jean-Guy Matou: Disons que je pense que les palestiniens ont plus besoin de manger et de sécurité, qu'un logo du drapeau sur un jeu comme VF, c'est ça que je veux surtout dire, ici c'est dérisoir surtout ! C'est comme mettre des drapeaux sur des mairies, grosso modo ça sert à rien !
Mais ça c'est mon avis ...

I'm sorry, but what country doesn't need food and security? It's a bit of a collon mentality, mate! We're so superior that we're going to let a country at war be represented on VF wow... I'm getting better and better hahaha


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OMstar83 |

16 gün önce

Jean-Guy Matou: Disons que je pense que les palestiniens ont plus besoin de manger et de sécurité, qu'un logo du drapeau sur un jeu comme VF, c'est ça que je veux surtout dire, ici c'est dérisoir surtout ! C'est comme mettre des drapeaux sur des mairies, grosso modo ça sert à rien !
Mais ça c'est mon avis ...

It's reminiscent of the famous "Finish your plate, think of the children who have nothing to eat". It's a sanctimonious statement with flawed reasoning. Finishing your plate has never helped feed children who don't have enough to eat.
Here, it's the same thing: wanting a sporting nationality to appear on a game won't help the Palestinians to live in peace, in a wonderful world. Well, once we have the information...


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Lebaygue |

16 gün önce

At the end of the day you're all of the same opinion, just a different way of looking at the current mess.


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OMstar83 |

16 gün önce

Lebaygue: Au final vous êtes du même avis, juste une façon d appréhender le bordel ambiant d une autre manière.

FINISH YOUR PLATE!


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Jallow |

16 gün önce

OMstar83: Ca rappelle le fameux "Fini ton assiette, pense aux enfants qui n'ont rien à manger". C'est un propos moralisateur au raisonnement bancal. Finir son assiette n'a jamais aidé à nourrir les enfants qui ne mangent pas à leur faim.
Ici, c'est la même chose, vouloir l'apparition d'une nationalité sportive sur un jeu n'aidera pas les palestiniens à vivre en paix, dans un monde merveilleux. Mais je ne pense pas que ce soit le but recherché.

The aim here is just to get Palestine into the VF federations, as is the case for Macao, which I'm not sure is known by large numbers in this community.


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OMstar83 |

16 gün önce

Jallow: Le but recherché ici est juste de mettre la Palestine dans les fédé de VF comme ce qui est pour le macao dont suis mm pas sûre qu'il est connu de grands nombres dans cette communauté

I understood the aim and it's the same when I talk about New Caledonia. Simply to add, if the boss of the game so wishes, other sporting nationalities. Anyway, it's not that important either.


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Jean-Guy Matou |

16 gün önce

I've finished my whole plate!
Thank you 🥰
Every country should have food and be safe, let's start with us France!
And peace, if it were possible everywhere in the world, it would be what is best, but it's full of blah blahs that our politicians don't know how to do, they're lining their pockets and nothing more, Putin bouzille Ukraine, and bof... in Africa there are things happening rather ugly ...
Palestine and Israel are so complicated that, personally, I'm going to a game so I don't have to deal with all these problems here!
But then if it can advance the chmilblic, then put a Palestinian nation!)
Good game, sorry, it's a slippery slope and we live in a world where as soon as we say something we're treated like this or that ...
Have fun and be at peace !
Enjoy the game ...
Jean-Guy Matou. 😓


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leakcim58 |

16 gün önce

And groland on vf? Please Aymeric, do me a favour!


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k3vin59218 |

16 gün önce

leakcim58: Et groland sur vf? Stp aymeric, fait moi ce plaisir.!

I'd be for it!


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michbou |

16 gün önce

While we're at it, why not a muppet show?


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Ramzan Kadyrov |

16 gün önce

It pays to be sarcastic on vf
If Aymeric could organise a tournament called 'The Most Sarcastic' 🤣🤣🤣🤣


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leakcim58 |

16 gün önce

Aymeric's club is called bourrac. Another place in Greenland.


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King |

16 gün önce

You stray so far from the subject that nobody listens to each other, which automatically creates conflict and ambiguity.
As long as VF is not political, your reactions are disproportionate in highlighting the conflict between the two countries.

As mentioned above, most of the countries created on VF are not officially recognised by FIFA, and some are due to Aymeric's own choices. So what you need to know is, is Palestine recognised by FIFA? Yes
So, only Aymeric can decide on its creation.


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OMstar83 |

16 gün önce

King: Vous vous égarez tellement du sujet que personne ne s'écoute, ce qui créé automatiquement des conflits ou des ambiguïtés.
À partir du moment où VF n'est pas politique, vos réactions sont disproportionnées en mettant en avant le conflit imposant les deux pays.

Il a été question plus haut, que les pays créé sur VF sans pour la plupart du temps des pays reconnu officiellement par la FIFA, certains sont dû aux choix propre de Aymeric. Ce qu'il faut savoir est donc, Est-ce la Palestine est reco...

No better!


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