Hello
normalement en achetant auj le joueur du store , celui ci se retrouve avec 1courbe 30ans alors que normalement c'est 1courbe 31
someone has 1 answer please
S. Dahl
bien a vous

Whoa, just a hypothesis: isn't the duration of the "high plateau" fixed?

If not, maybe it's changed.

Galywat: Holà, simple hypothèse : est ce que c'est pas la durée du "haut plateau " qui est fixe ?

Sinon ça a peut-être changé.

I don't know, but all the curves on the blinds are 30 when they should normally be 31 at this time of year.
It's restrictive because on the regens in example you have until the 17th to take them, and everyone waits to get 32 curves.
it's complicated all the same

Galywat: Holà, simple hypothèse : est ce que c'est pas la durée du "haut plateau " qui est fixe ?

Sinon ça a peut-être changé.

Perhaps this has changed?
If so, we should know about it because we're talking about real money. If you buy with real money and you don't get what you expect, in that case it's a refund.

It seems to me that the maturity range for VF store players stops at 30 for all of them.

Blagoje Vidinic: Il me semble que la plage de maturité des joueurs VF store s'arrête à 30 ans pour tous.

So that's just changed, because that's not the case with me 😉

Léo-Messi: Ça a peut-être changé ?
Si c'est le cas nous devrions être au courant car on parle d'argent réel si en achetant avec de l'argent réel tu n'obtient pas ce que tu attendais dans ce cas là c'est un remboursement

Even if it has changed, I don't think it's been explicitly noted. In itself, there's nothing to stop you changing the curves, it may have been a habit, but it wasn't written in stone.

In general, the youngsters bought at the Store regressed to 30 years of age in the first two weeks of the new season, then 31 years of age, then 32 years of age from the 4th week onwards.

If this has changed, I don't see any point in buying a youngster from the Store.

i think it was a huge bug when aymeric worked on the players in the store
now it's really restrictive, we're already penalised by having to keep players for 3 seasons for 1 sale, if on top of that we're penalised on the curves there's no longer any point in buying young players from the store, in the cdf the curve hasn't changed from what i've seen
c'est certainement 1gros bug mais faudrait que aymeric intervienne assez rapidement sachant que la date butoire pour les regens est le 17. a 0h30

Or he's stopped the rules and is doing it randomly.
It's not written that he has to have such and such a curve on such and such a date.

pieutte: Ou alors il a arrêter les règles et le fait aléatoirement.
Aucunement cest écrit qu il doit avoir telle courbe a telle date.

en fait c'est pas aleatoire puisque toutes sont des regressions 30ans la on a verifie sur tous les joueurs du store sortiés
totally agree with you that it's not written anywhere but we paid irl money for 1product which is again not at the level of the game's cdf since in the cdf there are curves 30.31.32
I know that aymeric didn't want this, otherwise the game's cdf would also be affected, and that's not the case.
c'est 1bug qu'il doit rectifier avant le 17.08 a 00h30 sinon les membres vont se retrouver avec des courbes 30paye 1fortune en etoiles , la date butoire des regens

In every game in the world, when you pay with real money, it's to get advantages or content that's otherwise inaccessible. But in VF, it's the other way round.
Here, you're paying for a player who's regressing to 30, with a maximum NG of 85/86... whereas you can find the same type of player at auction for 10 to 15 M.
Frankly, I can't see any point to this system. I understand that the aim is to avoid having a paytowin, but this is excessive.

I make 1 pt up .

You're not taking a nap 🦧

Small up for this problem yes.

I did some research of my own and the regressions for players won at regens auctions were about :
D1 to D15: regression 30 years
D16 to D23: regression 31 years
D24 and over: regression 32 years

An example with players released last season:

Akliouche, released 58 days ago on D24 of last season: 32 => M. Akliouche
Pickford, released 59 days ago on D23 of last season: 31 => J. Pickford
Bulka, out 73 days ago on Matchday 9 of last season: 30 => M. Bułka

We all agree that nothing is written in stone when it comes to regression, but why does it change from one day to the next? Because it's clear that with 30-year regressions, no one will put €1 in the Store.

That's the way Aymeric works and always has, unfortunately.
On vf it's something to take into account.
You leave trained but you never know how it will end.
You play the competition and you're not immune to underwater regression and so on.
If you don't adapt to this mode you're in trouble 😂
Même si je te comprend totalement ;)

minadinho: c’est le fonctionnement de Aymeric et depuis toujours malheureusement .
Sur vf c’est une chose à prendre en compte .
Tu part formé mais tu sais jamais comment ça finiras .
Tu joue la compétition tu n’est pas à l’abri au régression sous marine ect .
Si tu t’adapte pas à se mode tu es mal barré 😂
Même si je te comprend totalement ;)

Personally, I don't care, it's the first time I've taken a player to the Store.
But I saw some last season who threw away a bunch of stars and that's not cool.

Because there's a huge difference between regression at 30 and 32.

You lose an easy 30% on resale but you pay the same price.
Logical 😂

I'm used to playing several games with real money and I can tell you that this is the only game where you pay to be more rubbish. Normally on online games when you pay it's to have advantages but here there are no advantages, the players from the training centre are better than the players bought on the VF store.
For my part, after seeing these 30 year old shells, I'm done. I won't be putting a single euro into the game unless it's modified and the curves go back to 32.

aymeric
We're all talking to each other here (store customers), and we all agree that this bug or change on your part isn't cool for us.
On injecte quand meme pas mal dans ton store pour avoir quand meme 1 minima de respect a ce sujet la , la on a la impression de se faire pigeonne sur ce coups la , pour ma part et bcp d'autres je t assure que le store va être mis en suspend si cela reste en l'etat .
I'm really disgusted with the way it's developing.
bien a toi

Those of you who are fans of the Vfstore should see it as a way of making it easier to get good players and not as a way of getting players who are necessarily better than others.
Once you understand that, you'll be better off.
In short, at the Vfstore, you buy ease, not superiority.
There's plenty of criticism to be levelled at some of the ways in which the game is managed (particularly the unannounced changes), but if there's one thing that can't be faulted, it's the consistency with which the advantages of the Vfstore are used (and I'm not talking about those who use or have used its loopholes).
In short, for those who want to believe that the more you pay, the better you'll be, to the point where you'll become invulnerable thanks to an unlimited financial budget, change your game!

redbull77: aymeric
nous sommes entrains de parler tous entres nous la ( clients du store ) , et on est tous d accord que ce bug ou changement de ta part n est pas cool pour nous .
On injecte quand meme pas mal dans ton store pour avoir quand meme 1 minima de respect a ce sujet la , la on a cette impression de se faire pigeonne sur ce coups la , pour ma part et bcp d autres je t assure que le store va etre mis en suspend si cela reste en l etat .
bien degoute franchement de l evolution que cela prend l...

You're very ambitious to expect a response from Aymeric dude 😂. He will never respond. He couldn't care less about your opinions or what you say. He will continue to make changes as he pleases, when he pleases . The best thing is to stop putting money into the blind and that's it.

myforsans: Vous qui etes des adeptes du Vfstore, percevez le comme un moyen facilitant l'obtention de bons joueurs et pas comme un moyen d'avoir dës joueurs nécessairement meilleurs que les autres.
Une fois que vous aurez compris cela vous vous porterez mieux.
Bref, au Vfstore, on achète de la facilité et pas de la supériorité.
On peut faire pas mal de critiques à certains modes de gestion du jeu (notamment les modifications sans préavis) mais s'il y a bien une chose qu'on ne peut pas reprocher c'est l...

Lunar answer

I'm not sure what's so lunar about it. On the contrary, what I'm describing is very real...now if reality doesn't suit you, that's another subject! :) :) :)
To each his own, mine is that the Vfstore is perfectly well calibrated in allowing impatient users to save time but not allowing users to outclass others.
But it's your right to have a different opinion.
In any case, one thing's for sure, the word 'lunar' (the meaning of which you may not know) strikes me as completely inappropriate.

myforsans: Vous qui etes des adeptes du Vfstore, percevez le comme un moyen facilitant l'obtention de bons joueurs et pas comme un moyen d'avoir dës joueurs nécessairement meilleurs que les autres.
Une fois que vous aurez compris cela vous vous porterez mieux.
Bref, au Vfstore, on achète de la facilité et pas de la supériorité.
On peut faire pas mal de critiques à certains modes de gestion du jeu (notamment les modifications sans préavis) mais s'il y a bien une chose qu'on ne peut pas reprocher c'est l...

we who are customers of the store as you say, we do not want to have better players but simply to have the same players as on vf, nothing more nothing less.

Right now, players bought from the store are in no way stronger than the real thing. And I would be the 1st against a pay to win game.

But you can't change something (and not the least) without informing consumers.
If this change had been announced beforehand, believe me, NO players would have bought from the store. So once you've collected the money, it's easy...

Where it's a bit more "pay to win" is for antique players. They're cheated, and even better, with a 32-year regression.

myforsans: Vous qui etes des adeptes du Vfstore, percevez le comme un moyen facilitant l'obtention de bons joueurs et pas comme un moyen d'avoir dës joueurs nécessairement meilleurs que les autres.
Une fois que vous aurez compris cela vous vous porterez mieux.
Bref, au Vfstore, on achète de la facilité et pas de la supériorité.
On peut faire pas mal de critiques à certains modes de gestion du jeu (notamment les modifications sans préavis) mais s'il y a bien une chose qu'on ne peut pas reprocher c'est l...

And personally I don't consider myself to be a fan of the blind, I only took one once to test it out. Just compare our stars spent if you want ^^ there's easily a ratio of 10 in your favour.

On the other hand, those who have spent hundreds of euros... I'll have a very bad time

So if they're no better than regular players, what's the point of buying from the Store?
Why pick on this type of player, and demand their reinstatement if they're no better than regular players?
It's not an attack, but I don't understand, or I'm missing something.
What's the point of spending money if the equivalent is available on VF?

Magpie: Du coup, s'ils ne sont pas plus interessants que les joueurs classiques, c'est quoi l'intérêt d'acheter sur le Store ?
Pourquoi s'acharner sur ce type de joueurs, et demander leurs rétablissements s'ils ne sont pas mieux que les joueurs lambdas ?
Ce n'est pas une attaque hein, mais je ne comprends pas, ou alors il me manque un élément.
Quel est l'intérêt de dépenser des sous s'il y'a l'équivalent sur VF ?

As I said, it was just a test.

And because with the drop in gain during training, it's difficult to exceed 90NG (or, more to the point, 200/210 points).

From what I've seen today, you can have a player from the store equal to a youngster at the end of training, but saving on training time of course.

It still seems a bit expensive for what it is, but in any case, in a 30-year decline, it's more than useless.

Magpie: Du coup, s'ils ne sont pas plus interessants que les joueurs classiques, c'est quoi l'intérêt d'acheter sur le Store ?
Pourquoi s'acharner sur ce type de joueurs, et demander leurs rétablissements s'ils ne sont pas mieux que les joueurs lambdas ?
Ce n'est pas une attaque hein, mais je ne comprends pas, ou alors il me manque un élément.
Quel est l'intérêt de dépenser des sous s'il y'a l'équivalent sur VF ?

so what's the point of playing with players on vf if there's the store?

redbull77: du coups c est quoi l interet de jouer avec des joueurs sur vf s il y a le store ?

??
Don't spend euros when you can buy these players on the market? Exchange, communicate, manage, etc.
What's more, you've got all the features, so there are no surprises?
Sometimes I wonder if you understand your questions 🤣

Magpie: ??
Ne pas dépenser des euros, alors que tu peux acheter ces joueurs sur le marché ? Echanger, communiquer, gérer, etc.
En plus tu as toutes les caractéristiques, pas de surprise ?
Parfois, je me demande si tu comprends tes questions 🤣

I UNDERSTAND above all that you've come to pollute my topic, hence my question in relation to yours.
Sometimes I also wonder what use your contribution to this topic could be?
we're in the bug part so thanks for your contribution now if you can get involved to fix this speudo bug that would be great otherwise thank you for not getting involved
I'm sure other members will be by during the day

redbull77: nous qui sommes client du store comme tu dis , on ne veut pas avoir de meilleurs joueurs mais simplement avoir les memes joueurs que sur vf , rien de plus rien de moins

I was simply replying to that by asking about the interest.
Not everyone is a rocket scientist like you. It's true, as we all have trouble understanding you, we ask questions, hoping one day to reach your legendary level of mastery of VF.
And I can see that this question has embarrassed you. So something's up.
Perhaps an inconsistency on your part? 🤠🙊

Sorry if pointing out rubbish is experienced as pollution 😙

Magpie: Je repondais simplement à ça en questionnant sur l'intérêt.
On n'a pas tous la science infuse comme toi. C'est vrai, comme on a tous du mal à te comprendre, on pose des questions, en espérant un jour atteindre ton niveau de maîtrise légendaire de VF.
Et je vois que cette question t'a mis dans l'embarras. Il y'a donc un truc.
Peut-être une incohérence de ta part ? 🤠🙊

Désolé si pointer des foutaises est vécu comme une pollution 😙

michbou
you can delete his comments on the topic so that it is clear please
j'ai payé pour 1 produit avec 1courbe 31 et non 1courbe 30ans , comme aucune modification n'ate annonce il est donc normal de venir poste en partie bug a ce sujet

VFo doesn't belong to you and michbou isn't your stooge.
Ced90, who was far more constructive, pointed out an element of the answer (saving time).
Everyone can make up their own minds.
Nonetheless, this raises the question of whether the store would be of any interest if the players were stronger (and therefore you would have lied).
I don't know if that's true, it's the principle of a question.
But it may allow us to consider the hypothesis of a rebalancing by Aymeric.
Quite simply.

And no, you didn't pay for a curved profuit 31. It's not listed anywhere.
Bullshit, then 😃😃😃😃

Personally, I think that vf store players in the right hands can finish 99 gen, especially those with 87+ potential. Maybe that's where the answer lies, and making them regress more quickly than the others would be a way of maintaining the future balance.

Sun's: Perso je pense que les joueurs vf store entre de bonnes mains peuvent finir 99 gen surtout ceux qui ont du potentiel 87+ .. peut être que la réponse se trouve la, et les faire régresser plus rapidement que les autres serait un moyen de maintenir l'équilibre futur

Today, a top top top top player in the store will end up like this one (208 points) => M. Caicedo But there are very very few of them, in general it's maximum potential 86

To balance things out, if need be, you'd have to reduce the stamina you get by 4-5 points by getting them out at the minimum age.

For information, when you take him out at the minimum age (for example 21 years old and current score of 75). Then his stamina will be : NG/3 = 25

That's the only 'bonus' for these players, but that's where the real money comes from. In my opinion, there are better options on the transfer market, or via players generated by Aymeric with reallocation.

Ced90: Aujourd'hui un top top top joueur du store finira comme celui-ci (208 points) => M. Caicedo Mais il y en a très très peu, en général c'est maxi potentiel 86

Pour équilibrer si besoin il y a, il faudrait à la limite réduire de 4-5 points l'endurance obtenue en le faisant sortir à l'âge minimal.

Car pour information lorsque tu le sort à l'âge mini (Par exemple 21 ans et note actuelle de 75). Alors son endurance sera de : NG/3 = 25

C'est le seul "bonus" à c...

I can see that.
After that, Aymeric should communicate better about the real money aspect... the other free-to-play aspect at the limit... that's all...

Maybe rethink the vf store display and put warnings about possible progress ranges etc so that you know what the consumer is buying?

I think that the blind will become interesting for everyone when there will be no more 99ng at all as said by ced it is super difficult with the new generation to reach 90ng and 20 endu

So there you have it, 30-year regressions for CDF releases, all you had to do was ask 😂
D. Forace

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