Hello, isn’t there a glitch with that match regarding the last goal?
The last update was at 85’ – how come there are two goals?

Because it’s quite worrying to concede two completely out-of-the-blue goals like that at the end when we were completely dominating.
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It’s bad enough that there are those scripted 20–30-minute spells where you can’t create any chances – they drag on – but then to concede two completely out-of-the-blue goals like that at the end is the last straw 😂

Hello
No bugs, and no scripts.

aymeric45: Bonjour
Pas de bug, ni de script.

Right, thanks 🫡

It’s a bit odd, though, to have six chances in 15 minutes and then nothing for 30 minutes, with the same stats. And this has been spotted by colleagues across several matches.

Skyz: D'accord merci 🫡

Quand même étrange d'avoir 6 occasions en 15min puis plus rien pendant 30min avec les memes stats. Et ce, repéré sur plusieurs matchs par les collègues.

Hey, there’s nothing inexplicable about that, especially when possession was fairly even or around 60/40
=> your opponent may well have had the upper hand during that period but had little chance of scoring.

Galywat: Yop, en soit rien d’inexplicable d'autant plus avec des possessions assez proches ou autour de 60/40
=> ton adversaire a pu tout à fait avoir l'initiative du jeu pendant cette période et avoir peu de chance de scorer.

Yeah, you’re right, I was incredibly lucky for 15 minutes – I had everything going for me – and then for 30 minutes, nothing at all, and then for another 20 minutes, chances came thick and fast. 🫡

Skyz: Oui tu as raison, j'ai eu énormement de chance pendant 15min j'avais tout et puis ensuite pendant 30 minutes plus rien, et puis ensuite pendant 20min retour des occasions en bagaille. 🫡

It’s just a matter of statistics. MDM is simply a game of probabilities.

Galywat: C’est juste statistique. Le MDM est un jeu de probabilités.

These probabilities are pretty predictable, though 😅

Skyz: Assez prévisible quand même ces probabilités 😅

Exactement la même chose ici, temps fort pendant 25min et plus rien pendant 40min
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Well, if it makes you feel better to believe that, then carry on believing it anyway – even though Aymeric’s explaining the opposite to you.

Galywat: Bah écoute si ca te soulage d'y croire, bah continue de le faire quand bien meme aymeric t'explique aussi le contraire.

It’s true that it works in loads of matches, even when you’re completely dominating… It’s glaringly obvious

You’re crushing the opposition (possession, 2 zones with 2 or 3 midfielders + 2 or 3 forwards, etc.)
You might have six chances in 20 minutes, then nothing for 30 or 40 minutes, as if there were moments of momentum (well, of course there are)

But then again, you’ve got to realise that watching for an hour and a half just for that can be a bit of a drag at times

Yes, I see exactly what you mean. But statistically, it’s entirely explainable. It’s not a systematic occurrence, mind you.

If I draw an analogy with a coin toss, you can regularly get heads four or five times in a row. That doesn’t mean the coin is rigged.

Galywat: Oui je vois tout à fait ce dont vous parlez. (Et je comprends tout à fait que la carotte que skyz a pris soit hyper frustrante)

Mais statistiquement ca s'explique tout à fait. C’est pas systématique d'ailleurs.

Si je fais l'analogie avec un pile ou face, tu peux tirer 4 ou 5 fois pile d'affilee régulièrement. Ca veut pas dire que la pièce est truquée.

The carrot isn’t really the point – that sort of thing happens to everyone.
I started this thread to ask Aymeric if there was a ‘ghost goal’ bug, as has been the case recently in several matches, and he replied that there wasn’t.

But those 30-minute gaps in matches are a recurring issue, and there’s definitely something going on – either the game is freezing or it’s down to momentum. It can’t possibly be random when it happens so often – you’ve got a clear run on goal with three attacks, 65 per cent possession, five chances in a row, and then nothing.
Then it comes back, and you’re racking up the chances again after waiting half an hour for things to get going again.

Skyz: La carotte en vrai c'est pas le sujet, ça arrive à tout le monde ça.
J'ai fait le sujet pour demander à Aymeric si il n'y avait pas un bug de but fantome comme c'est le cas récemment sur plusieurs match et il à répondu que non.

Mais les trous de 30min sur les matchs c'est vu et revu et il y a quelque chose, soit le jeu qui freeze, soit des momentums. C'est impossible que ça soit aléatoire quand ça arrive aussi souvent, des boulevards avec attaque x3 65 de possession tu as 5 occasions d'affi...

Just because you can’t see anything in the commentary box (and I agree it would be good to have more information), that doesn’t mean nothing’s happening: your opponent may have the ball and you’re marking them tightly enough to minimise the chance of conceding a chance or a goal, or perhaps you’ve got the ball yourself but the play is ultimately taking place in an area you don’t dominate – or dominate as much – generating xG but no clear-cut chances.

But if you look at the match exports, or watch the matches in question, you’ll clearly see a change in xG during these lull periods.

Probably only slightly, and so in the situations you describe, it’ll likely be in the opponent’s favour; 35 per cent possession is no small thing – they can easily string together a few consecutive moves over 20–25 minutes (or even longer, depending on their success), given how the mdm works. Attacks which, if you block them, almost always result in ‘nothing’ appearing on the commentary screen.

But this isn’t the MDM freezing up (we’ve seen that before; you can spot it with goals at 0.0 xG, incidentally, quite recently).