Hello everyone,
Up until season 143, some of us farouchent detectors complained about a difference between the 3 ways of getting youngsters into the CDF.
Let me explain

• The u17 tournament routinely offers potential 81 to 83 in a single click, "the VF lottery".
• The recruiters offer a moderately financial opportunity and a good dose of luck to get some great potential, all in one click a week.
• The detections are made by spending hours connected each day on the game.

Up until season 142, with a great deal of luck you'd come across an 81, but very often 78 to 80, for hours compared with the other 2 possibilities with a much lower result.

The result was that we had apparently been listened to, because personally, between seasons 143 and 144, I found 2x 82 and 4x 81. But that meant between 160 and 450 clicks every day.

This season, we're back to square one. After +4000 clicks, I have 2x 80... that's all. A colleague with the same agreement has double the number of clicks; he found 1x 81 and no 80. It's sincerely disappointing and I think it's unfair to offer potential 83s in the lottery for a single click every 3 weeks at the u17 tournament.

I'm not asking for better detection days, but at least to be able to find players of the same level as the other options more regularly. So lower the other 2 activities or increase detection again. Lowering everyone will again create a generation gap, which would have a negative impact on the game as a whole.

In short, a little common sense and respect for clicks would be appreciated. If it stays like this... please let us know why, and above all it will allow me to stop detection.

I totally agree with you, Rull.

I couldn't agree with you more,

The same goes for me. I've done around 3,000 detections and I've got 1 pot 80 and 2 pot 79 so far... It's very meagre compared with last season and the season before that. So I share your opinion.

I quite agree with you.
A lot of things need to be reviewed.
The U17 tournament: on average, one player every 15 events, I think that's what Aymeric said.
I've only had 2 players in 10 years of vf ....
The recruiter: I don't have the figures but it's the same as 5 players max pot80 and more in 10 years with a recruiter 90. I see a lot of people having 2 or 3 per season.
Detection: maybe the easiest way to get a pot80 but you have to do 2,000 detections to find 1.
Too much inequality in my opinion. I'm speaking for myself but I think a lot of managers are in this situation and finding a more balanced formula would be much appreciated.

hazard14: Assez d'accord avec toi.
Beaucoup de chose a revoir.
Le tournoi u17 : en moyenne un joueur tout les 15 événements c'est ce que aymeric avait dit je crois.
J'ai eu que 2 joueurs en 10ans de vf ....
Le recruteur : je n'ai pas les chiffres mais pareil que 5 joueur max pot80 et plus en 10ans en ayant un recruteur 90. Je vois beaucoup de monde en avoir 2 voir 3 par saison.
La détection : peut etre le moyen le plus facile d'avoir un pot80 mais obligé de faire 2000 détection pour en trouver 1.
Tr...

There's a 4th way of getting them, and that's to have a friend with a level 2 CDF who catches a junior pot 84 and sells it back to us for 100k.
This optimises everything: there's no need to launch the event, no need to wait for a report from the RJ, no need to spend ages detecting. It's magnificent.
The most profitable click there is. And what's more, by clicking 3 more times, you can get 3 NG 90 players for 100k, from the same friend! It's fantastic. You were very critical of the new transfer market with no framework, so you've adapted well 😇

Sorry for the off topic digression but I think you'd better keep a low profile instead of complaining!!!!

Hello
Just to counterbalance and try to reassure you, I think it's just a question of luck. I haven't noticed any noticeable drop in detection activity in previous seasons, but this season I must have the legendary luck of our beloved coach because I've already found 2 potential 81s and 4 potential 80s. And all of this despite the fact that I don't detect very often.

Nicularo: Il y a une 4e façon d’en obtenir, c’est d’avoir un copain qui a un CDF niveau 2 et qui chope un junior pot 84 qui nous le revend pour 100k.
La on optimise tout : pas besoin de lancer l’événement, pas besoin d’attendre un rapport du RJ, pas besoin de passer des plombes à détecter. C’est magnifique.
Le click le plus profitable qui soit. Et en plus en faisant 3 clicks de plus on peut avoir 3 joueurs NG 90 pour 100k, de ce même copain!! C’est formidable. Toi qui critiquait beaucoup le nouveau mar...

Nicularo, that kind of pointless and futile attack. Please stay in your place as a vf member who comments on a topic without making personal attacks on anyone.
Before telling others how to behave, it would be better to start doing it yourself!
Sincerely

PS: if this topic turns sour, I invite the admins to close it already....

Yes, if we can avoid hijacking the subject.
Keep Cool

Someone in my agreement has had better luck 5500 detections, 1x 82, 1x 81 and 1x 80.

Maybe I've been unlucky this season. It doesn't make you want to do more, though.

Nicularo: Il y a une 4e façon d’en obtenir, c’est d’avoir un copain qui a un CDF niveau 2 et qui chope un junior pot 84 qui nous le revend pour 100k.
La on optimise tout : pas besoin de lancer l’événement, pas besoin d’attendre un rapport du RJ, pas besoin de passer des plombes à détecter. C’est magnifique.
Le click le plus profitable qui soit. Et en plus en faisant 3 clicks de plus on peut avoir 3 joueurs NG 90 pour 100k, de ce même copain!! C’est formidable. Toi qui critiquait beaucoup le nouveau mar...

That was a ballsy intervention. It's the umpteenth time you've made a gratuitous attack on Hazard when there are so many of us managers taking advantage of the free market.
You too on 2 January about the purchase of a 25-year-old Ng81 for 1.1M sold the same day for 8.5M. We can all point the finger at transfers that are no longer within the old norms. I invite you to find out how Hazard managed to recover these players, simply by contacting the seller. But gratuitous attacks are easier.

Rull43: Oui si on peut éviter le détournement du sujet.
Keep Cool

Qqn de mon entente a eu plus de chance 5500 détections, 1x 82, 1x 81 et 1x 80.

Je n'ai peut-être pas eu de chance cette saison. Cela donne pas envie d'en faire plus quand meme.
A suivre, on verra à la fin de saison

I blew my chance last season by passing cdf10 with 7 days to go ... and finding an 81, 82 in 600 detections.

Isn't it just possible that you were lucky last season?

In the same vein, I'm at 7,000 clicks and 1,82, 1,80 and 2,79...
Skinny

4500 and 1 of 83 potential 😉

I say to myself:

• The game wasn't designed to give us a constant supply of crack players.
• The good players are perhaps a little more scattered and we're not looking in the right places.

In short, finding +80s isn't a given.

I was thinking the same thing...
It might be interesting if the time spent on detection were rewarded, say the following season, by a greater chance with the scout...
Then I tell myself that every season clubs don't have a golden generation...

Nicularo: Il y a une 4e façon d’en obtenir, c’est d’avoir un copain qui a un CDF niveau 2 et qui chope un junior pot 84 qui nous le revend pour 100k.
La on optimise tout : pas besoin de lancer l’événement, pas besoin d’attendre un rapport du RJ, pas besoin de passer des plombes à détecter. C’est magnifique.
Le click le plus profitable qui soit. Et en plus en faisant 3 clicks de plus on peut avoir 3 joueurs NG 90 pour 100k, de ce même copain!! C’est formidable. Toi qui critiquait beaucoup le nouveau mar...

Thank you Nicularo for not giving up in the face of the shameful abuses we see every day. Let's hope that Aymeric has the curiosity to look at open subjects from time to time and see the current abuses caused by the liberalisation of the market. We've gone from a VF that rewards merit to one that rewards wheeling and dealing. It's a sad state of affairs.

Quite a few people have written to tell me that they've found 81s... very few 82s. Let's just say that makes me feel better.
Let's say it's like injuries. Cyclical.
No luck so far.

Thanks for your feedback.

Just one 81 for me, otherwise just 79s

Demi-cerveau: Merci Nicularo de ne pas baisser les armes face aux dérives honteuses que l'on peut constater chaque jour. Et honte à ceux qui profitent de tout cela pour arnaquer des nouveaux ou gonfler artificiellement leur banque à vil prix. Espérons qu'Aymeric a la curiosité de regarder de temps en temps les sujets ouverts et de constater les dérives actuelles engendrées par la libéralisation du marché. On est passé d'un VF qui récompensait le mérite à un autre qui récompense la magouille. C'est triste.

Hang on, we're not even halfway there yet... Today, any club that has been registered for a handful of minutes can join the community event, score a goal with their number 26 and pocket 18.8M.
It's never been easier. And it's all legal. I imagine you've already figured out where I'm going with this... Multi-account holders are in for a treat. Well, especially the owners. And as there's no longer any need to fiddle to transfer assets from one club to another, there's going to be a lot of money in circulation. Some people will earn 75 million by playing the game, others maybe 5 times more by playing with a VPN.

Personally, I've never taken out a player with a pot of 80 or more with the detection system, so it makes no difference to me. And as far as I'm concerned, if you have 1 or 2 players with a pot of 80 or more per season, you're very lucky...

Then crap, on February 1st, more than 750 pot80 are going to arrive for the Cdf... we have to take them elsewhere 😅

That's it, I know the way out 🫶

That's going to make bundles of potential 80s trading at 100,000 between multi-accounts all that ... 🫣

napoleon10: perso, je n'ai jamais sorti de joueur à pot +80 avec la détection, donc ça ne change rien pour moi. et toujours pour moi si vous avez 1 ou 2 joueurs de Pot de 80 et plus, par saison, vous avez beaucoup de chance...

If you're not doing any detection, you're not really concerned.

but I was talking about detection ^^

Some people have fun counting their number of clicks.
You really don't need to have much to do!
Fun and games

losgardos: Certains s'amusent à comptabiliser leur nombre de clics .
Faut vraiment pas avoir grand chose à faire!
Du délire

No need to count,
You can simply see it in the detection tab, then log 😉

napoleon10: mais je parlais bien de détection ^^

Yes, so you didn't understand it

My message is the difference between tournament u17, recruiter and us detectors who spend hours on the game, just for those clicks.

The important thing is not to have 78s or 83s. It's that in the U17 tournament you can score between 81 and 83 without doing anything, whereas with 2 hours a day... you can be happy with an 81.

losgardos: Certains s'amusent à comptabiliser leur nombre de clics .
Faut vraiment pas avoir grand chose à faire!
Du délire

My dear, mexico city has 22,000 players. You don't need to count them.

After that, I think it's all a question of ratios!
A U17 tournament is every 30 days.
A CdF recruiter 1 per week.
Detection 150 every 6 hours.

If you take the probability of this ratio per club, it's logical that the potential is in line with these ratios.

But that's just my opinion 😇

I agree with Rull, Nicularo and Demi. Have a good evening, everyone!