Sikora |

Hace 27h

Hello the community,
Who can tell me why I'm eligible and not qualified in relation to the team ahead of me?

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Magpie |

Hace 27h

On the fly, without looking, probably because he's won a cup or made a final. Or has a ranking that automatically entitles him to it.
As for you, you obviously didn't get your ticket by winning a competition, so you're only eligible if there's room left.


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Magpie |

Hace 27h

But on closer examination, it's true that it's not that obvious.
With no Cup win and no final, all that's left is the league.
But you have the same ranking.
I can only see the 'higher' ranking in his Northern Ireland league giving him priority, but that's not the case, in fact it's the opposite.
Really, I don't see why he's ranked higher than you.


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Blagoje Vidinic |

Hace 27h

How long?


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Sikora |

Hace 26h

No more


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Pierabou |

Hace 26h

Perhaps, as with all the rankings on VF, when there are ties, the game will display an order that will not necessarily be the final order and that will be determined by a draw.

For example, in the LDC, when there is a tie in the group stage, a draw is used to break the tie.


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Coach Ranieri |

Hace 25h

Normally it's seniority that separates each place. In fact, if you look at the 3rd places, it's in order of seniority. It's just for this club that logic is not respected.


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Sikora |

Hace 25h

Am I posting a bug or does someone have the answer?


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Galywat |

Hace 24h

3rd place each, same number of points, perhaps the goal difference then applies? He's ahead on that point.

(mere hypothesis, no certainty)


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Magpie |

Hace 24h

After that, if it makes you feel any better, you're eligible, which means you'll get a place if anything comes up.
This can happen with teams that have 2 tickets. For example, cup winners and league winners at the same time, for the LdC. In theory, this frees up one place, and fills the vacant places with the "eligible" ones.
This system remains the same with the VFFA (e.g. Cup finalists who finish in the VFFA places in the league).
There are bound to be clubs in this situation, so it should work, if you're among the first eligible :)

But I can see that it's clearly not reassuring ^^.


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Blagoje Vidinic |

Hace 24h

Magpie: Après, si cela peut te "rassurer", tu es éligible, ce qui signifie que tu prendras une place si ça se libère.
Cela peut se libérer avec les équipes qui ont 2 tickets. Par exemple, vainqueur de coupe et vainqueur de championnat à la fois, pour la LdC.. En théorie, ça libère une place, et ça remplit les places vacantes avec les "éligibles".
Ce système reste le même avec la VFFA (exemple Finaliste de Coupe qui finit dans les places de VFFA en championnat).
Il y'a forcément des clubs sont dans ce...

Given that the championships and cups are over, the current ranking is very likely to be the one used for the cup draw tonight.


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Magpie |

Hace 24h

Blagoje Vidinic: Etant donné que les championnats et les coupes sont terminées, le classement actuel est très probablement celui qui sera utilisé pour le tirage des coupes cette nuit.

Yes, of course, the 'ranking' won't change, that's for sure.

But I doubt it will include the teams with "2 tickets".
I think it's only the draw that does the sorting, you know what I mean?


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Marcus Aurelius |

Hace 24h

Magpie: Oui oui bien entendu, le "classement" ne changera pas, c'est certain.

Mais je doute qu'il intègre les équipes ayant "2 tickets".
Je pense que seul le tirage au sort fait le tri, tu vois le truc ?

At this stage the sorting is already done.


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Magpie |

Hace 24h

Marcus Aurelius: A ce stade le tri est déjà fait.

I admit I haven't looked into it.
But then, what conditions would qualify someone as eligible?
I don't see the point then :/


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estac |

Hace 23h

Magpie: Ah ? J'avoue ne pas avoir regardé précisément.
Mais du coup, quelles condition peuvent qualifier un éligible alors ?
Je ne vois pas l'intérêt alors :/

You can qualify with 3 days to go if you come second, for example.
If you come 4th at the end of the championship, you are no longer qualified and the 1st eligible player takes your place.


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Magpie |

Hace 23h

No, no, but I did understand that, I was talking about "what could take a Qualifier out of the LdC, in favour of an Eligible, right now, on D56, or tonight?"

That's why I don't understand the point of the eligibles in J56. And I'd like to know what could make an Eligible to Qualified. I thought there were double-tickets but, yes, the sorting has already been done, it seems to be the case.

It's true, that does seem to be the case. As much as it's interesting for the VFFA because if any LDC-eligible players become Qualified tonight, that frees up a place in the VFFA. But I find it hard to understand what the point is and what could move the lines?


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Blagoje Vidinic |

Hace 23h

Nothing, of course, but we're not going to change the way the list is presented just for J56 because there's no point in doing it then, are we?


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Magpie |

Hace 23h

No, clearly, even if the interest remains relative on the other days too, eh?)
But I was simply trying to find out if there was anything that could get the ball rolling. The way the list was presented made me personally think that it would.
If the sorting has already been done, and nothing can move the lines, then the die is cast. I've got my answer.

We'll see if the lines have moved tomorrow, or not (in VFFA in particular) :)


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Magpie |

Hace 22h

Finally, to answer the basic question, maxou's UID (623618) is older than Skora's (625645).
The game therefore considers maxou's club to be older, probably.
There was a time, I think, when UIDs were recycled. This probably explains why maxou, whose club was created in 2020, has priority over Sikora's (2019), if seniority is the tie-breaker.

All the best.


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Yaya61 |

Hace 21h

Hello,

It's the UID, I had the case a few seasons ago. My club was older but my UID was higher, so it was the other club that qualified.


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Sikora |

Hace 16h

Thanks for your feedback!


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