Socrate |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςA quick reminder of the rules concerning the role and obligations of a cartel coach.
- Call up his squad
- Play his IS match
- Place all summoned players on the bench, so that they do not under any circumstances take part in the coach's club match.
From the time of the call-up until the players return to their clubs, the coach is not allowed, on pain of being blocked, to carry out :
- collective training sessions
- Events of any kind
- Individual training sessions involving selected players
Any breach of these rules will be considered an infringement of the anti-cheating rules.
Thank you for your understanding and respect for these rules.
Anti-cheating admin
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Demi-cerveau |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςA word of warning. If, at the time when the SI coach collects his selection, he has collective training sessions, the players called up for the SI do not take part in any training session scheduled in their presence, as for any classic loan.
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Akram |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςWhy this recall?
And why the sanctions now and not before?
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Socrate |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςDecisions like this aren't made in a hurry.
And VF isn't the centre of our lives either, so sometimes you start something, then you stop, you sleep, you look after your IRL life, you don't have much time to devote to VF, other things come up, e.g. free market...
ETC...ETc...Etc...etc...
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Akram |
πριν από 7 ημέρες> Prendre des décisions de la sorte ne se font pas à la hâte.
> Et également VF n’est pas le centre de nos vies, donc des fois on commence quelque choses, après on arrête, on dort, on s’occupent de nos vies IRL, on a peu de temps à consacrer à VF, d’autres affaires arrivent sur la table exemple marché libre…
> ETC…ETc…Etc…etc…
Yes, good luck with your admin work and IRL soso
But what I want to say is,
Cest que toutes ses règles là sont claires bien avant , et tout le monde est au courant sa sert a rien de faire rappeler à la communauté sauf si :
- Change of rules
- Infractions linked to these rules
I'm just asking for clarification.
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hazard14 |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςIt's just a cover, nothing serious 😉
Récupération physique c'est tout aussi interdit qu'un stage prepa sur un is un joueur a 90% ou 100% c'est pas pareil
A bon entendeur
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hazard14 |
πριν από 7 ημέρες>
> @Akram effectivement il y’a eu sanction.
> Je pense que tu as compris du coup de qui malheuresement il s’agit.
I'm not talking to you socrate thank you
If you want to talk to me my mp is open
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Demi-cerveau |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςhazard14: C'est juste pour se couvrir rien de grave 😉
Récupération physique c'est tout aussi interdit qu un stage prepa sur un is un joueur a 90% ou 100% ce n'est pas pareil
A bon entendeur
Well, I encourage you to reread the rules. Physical recovery is ACTUALLY 100% authorised.
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tbar |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςDemi-cerveau: Et ben je t'encourage à relire le règlement. La récupération physique est ACTUELLEMENT 100% autorisée.
Je parle en connaissance de cause, ce règlement, c'est avec Morten que nous l'avons rédigé. Nous en avions discuté auparavant, et nous avions interdit certains événements et pas d'autres. Dans notre esprit, la ligne rouge à ne pas franchir était de ne pas permettre d'améliorer les statistiques du joueur via la sélection IS. Nous avions eu le cas d'une entente qui sélectionnait des jeunes e...

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Jason40 |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςtbar:
That's exactly what half-brain said above. Physical preparation = forbidden. Recovery training = authorised. This is what the rules say
"Secondly, the rules are very clear on events: it has always been forbidden for players to benefit from physical preparation during the event in order to gain a point in stamina. And that's all. Physique gain events (walks in the forest, recovery courses) have always been allowed, and that's perfectly normal since they don't improve the player's starting owner in any way. If that changes, then the rules have to change."
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kiki-sainté |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςDoesn't he have the right to make players play for his club either?
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tbar |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςJason40: C'est exactement ce que dis demi-cerveau plus haut. Prépa physique = interdit. Stage de récupération = autorisé. Le règlement va dans ce sens
" Ensuite, le règlement est très clair sur les évènements : il a toujours été interdit de faire bénéficier aux joueurs de l'événement de préparation physique pour gagner un point en endurance. Et c'est tout. Les événements de gains de physique (marche en forêt, stage de récupération) ont toujours été autorisés, et c'est bien normal puisque ça n'améli...

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Lebaygue |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςWell then, you'll all have to agree... under no circumstances is it written in the VF cup that a recovery course is forbidden... and this cup is a bit different with its own rules.
And even if it were forbidden, apart from spending your time looking at your opponents, in order to catch them via screenshots once the selection has been called, I wonder which of the 2 has more to complain about... The one doing a recovery course or the one watching.
It's a completely stupid rule, if you'll pardon the expression.
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Vrael Zendo |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςLebaygue: Bon ben du coup, va falloir vous mettre tous d accord...en aucun cas,il n est écrit dans le cadre de la VF cup qu un stage de récupération est interdit...et cette cup est un peu à part avec son règlement bien à elle.
Et quand bien même ce soit interdit, hormis passer son temps a zyeuter l adversaire, afin de le prendre via des captures d écran une fois la sélection appelée,je me demande lequel des 2 est le plus a plaindre... Celui qui fait un stage de récupération ou celui qui surveille.
C'es...
The rules between Cup and non-Cup IS were harmonised at the time of the halfway stage, just so you know. I can confirm that the recovery period was authorised for both Cup and non-Cup matches. Today the only differences between Cup and non-Cup matches are :
- Systematic checking of matches (for non-Cup matches, I doubt the admins have the time to check each match)
- Organisation and the assurance of being able to earn the 36 points possible for the agreed standings.
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Lebaygue |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςWell then, Vrael, let's go back to what I said before.
Why did Socrate make a clarification that was denied by Demi and the organisers?
It's getting a bit messy... so for future cups, you'll have to specify whether a walk in the forest or a recovery course is authorised or not.
For simplicity's sake, I think you have to accept it, it's an event that's only available once every 2 weeks, so during the pool period, you can only use it once, or even twice, but always at the expense of the coach, so it'll be a matter of management too, and what's more, it'll lighten the witch-hunt and the admins' already overloaded schedule.
Frankly, which coach hasn't done it at least once... we need to think about the rules to relieve Moscow's eye, he's going to end up with cataracts.
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Socrate |
πριν από 7 ημέρεςI'll get back to you J56 without fail!
Thank you
Have Fun
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Socrate |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςHello everyone,
I've had some feedback and here it is:

There are no penalties for selectors who use this practice because it's not mentioned in the rules.
Those practising the +1 event in endurance are in a different situation: this prohibition is clearly mentioned in the rules.
Happy birthday to you and your families.
Socrate
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Brutus |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςBrutus |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςAs a precaution, I apologise for this message, but given that the screen has been deleted and we have no details about it... I'll be on my guard ;)
Note to all: I'm speaking as a proven trainer, not to take anyone down, you destroy (by optimisation) the training system, I destroy you...
So Hazard, a thousand apologies in advance, I don't have any real details!
Anyway... don't go blundering about optimising, I'm going to track you down ^^ ... because with equal weapons (like G.I. Jane), I'm on top! ^^
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Azby |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςI take the liberty of replying, as I have a few colleagues who are a little more sanguine than I am... Socrates will correct me if I write something stupid.
Our Drakes coach has been banned from the game for two months. I imagine there are those here who would like to see more, such as being drawn and quartered in public, or even worse, a tax audit. But the two-month ban has been chosen.
It's worth noting that LV was able to show that the flaw had been exposed before the screen was published on the French Discord, by offering to remove the players affected by this endurance course. It's not as juicy as the initial screen, so it hasn't been shared as much, but that's the way it is.
Hazard, whom you mention, is guilty of nothing in this case other than being the loudest mouth in a cartel that has some pretty big ones. It's sometimes a disadvantage, we're not going to lie... but I don't know anyone on VF who is capable of giving more of themselves for an agreement and its members than he is.
In short, we screwed up on this point. We warned that we'd screwed up, but we screwed up anyway.
Our biggest penalty isn't 'official': we're seen as wankers by everyone. Some of our members spend a great deal of time tracking down 'industrial' cheats. Today, the image of the LV is tarnished and associated with these individuals. We know that it will take time to restore our image and that many people are laughing under their breath today. It's up to us to show humility and resilience.
I would like to add one thing, though. We would have liked to see the same community energy deployed against the industrial cheats, who have taken things to a new level by turning to harassment and divulging personal information. Today, on VF, we have people stalking the social network accounts of 'cheat hunters' to intimidate them into silence. It may sound crazy, but it's a reality.
That's it for me.
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Brutus |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςAfter that, apart from this passage, it would be cool if you could clinch 1st place this season... don't give up ;)
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Deck |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςAzby: Je me permet de répondre, j'ai quelques collègues d'entente un peu plus sanguins que moi... Socrate me corrigera si j'écris une bêtise.
Notre sélectionneur drakes a été ban du jeu pour deux mois. J'imagine que certains ici voudraient plus, comme un écartèlement en place publique, ou pire, un contrôle fiscal. Mais le ban de deux mois a été choisi.
A noter que la LV a été en mesure de montrer que la faille avait été remontée avant que le screen ne soit publié sur le Discord VF, en proposant d...
Hi Abzy,
Thank you for your very clear message.
I'm not going to comment on the facts or the penalty against Drakes, as I don't really have an opinion.
However, when CP was at the centre of the cyclone for the "industrial cheating" you mentioned, I found that the energy deployed by the community and some LVs was rather good, contrary to what you say.
I like some of the LVs, and others, including you, whom I don't know, seem like nice people, but we'll be honest about the fact that the 'big mouth' you talk about here irritates a good part of the community, at least those I know...
As a reminder, he managed to make all these contributions on the same subject! ( endu internships)










And today we learn that he knew about it, and that his agreement had benefited from it...
Of course, when you make this kind of comment, and such a large number of public accusations, bordering on harassment, it's hardly surprising that when the chips are down, a lot of people laugh at the situation.
He's not to blame for this, but unfortunately he represents the LV and his behaviour doesn't help the general atmosphere...
On that note, merry Christmas and well done to LV and LR for a crazy end to the season in the race for the agreement title, and no doubt Spoupou will represent LV to perfection in the final. Misha's sweating, and it's not because of the turkey he's just gobbled up!
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Azby |
πριν από 4 ημέρεςHi Deck.
I wasn't talking about the CP but about the zozos who have been hosting the MC for some time now...
I'm not interested in the screen wars. I'm old enough to remember the right to private conversation without public display. So I won't react to the rest.
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