Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenHello everyone, friends, enemies, colleagues, players, admitted. I'm speaking freely here. We're playing a game that's supposed to entertain us, bring us together or not, whatever our differences of opinion. I'm aware that the message I'm sending out is a waste of time for some people. For others, I can't even imagine what they're saying. Aymeric often logs on but doesn't answer the questions we ask. I don't think that's right. Even if these admitted students are supposed to answer questions and solve certain problems, I know that their hands are tied, and that's not right. Or he's really absent, for whatever reason, and someone else, maybe a member of his family, logs in for him, which could explain why he doesn't see the messages. This isn't right because he has responsibilities. Or maybe he's dead and they're hiding it from us, and that would be sad. If I launch this appeal, it's in everyone's interest. But I also know that there are some privileged people who think that nothing can get to them until the day when the worries about communication, understanding and dialogue start knocking on the door. (I've known the game since 2008)..........................
So I suggest we stop using the VF store until Aymeric is kind enough to talk to us frankly and clearly about things. I imagine that as long as the money đ° comes into his bank, he feels comfortable. I'm aware of what I'm asking of you. Everyone is free. But if we do nothing, one day some people will feel they've wasted their money for nothing. It is with respect and calm that I make this appeal. The future of this game has never been in Aymeric's hands, but rather in yours. Freedom to you, and a good game to you all.
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Zeus |
3 mÄned sidenOh yeah...
Hey, stop using illicit products, eh?
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Zeus |
3 mÄned sidenAh bah I understand better, I hadn't seen the club... xD
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenAguado |
3 mÄned sidenJulesVerne |
3 mÄned sidenIs this a joke or did I miss an episode?
if it's not, then it's grotesque
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michbou |
3 mĂ„ned sidenGuyaloboue: Peut-ĂȘtre
What you're proposing is a boycott of the vfstore (AND the game) for as long as Aymeric45 doesn't do anything about the game (rest on questions/ AND fix the "so-called bug" right after the statement)
That's right ?????
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villa |
3 mÄned sidenGuyaloboue |
3 mĂ„ned sidenmichbou: Ce que tu proposes c'est un boy cote du vfstore (ET du jeu) Par lĂ mĂȘme Tant que Aymeric45 ne fait Rien sur lee jeu donc (repos au tac au tac sur Les questions/ ET rĂ©parĂ© Les "soit disant bug"" tout de suite aprĂšs la dĂ©claration
C'est bien cela ?????
What do you think?
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Arazosv |
3 mÄned sidenYou don't use your money to get stars but you beg others for them, so you don't risk boycotting anything
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kiki-sainté |
3 mÄned sidenUhhhh what can I say, first of all I've been playing since 2008 and Aymeric has had long absences from the game but has always come back
Of course, I'll grant you that bugs or other requests are annoying to wait for and not get an answer to our questions
But remember that in the past we've gone years without an answer and we're still here
But now I think you're going too far
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Wissam.Mn |
3 mÄned sidenI don't agree with your ultimatum!
First of all, you're not being objective, because you should already be asking us your questions and requests.
Aymeric is offering a free game with the vf store option, which isn't compulsory. Admittedly, the mdm is poorly calibrated at times. But it's already very good.
So there's no point in getting the managers involved in a war with you, especially for a cause we don't know anything about.
Use Vfo for all your requests and if the administrators don't reply, the managers may have the answers.
Have a good game.
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenkiki-sainté: Euhhhh que dire ,tout d abord je joue depuis 2008 et aymeric à eu des longues absences sur le jeu mais est toujours revenu
Certes je te l accorde les bugs ou autres demandes c est chiant d attendre et pas avoir de réponse à nos questions
Mais dis toi que par le passĂ© on est restĂ© des annĂ©es sans rĂ©ponse et on est toujours lĂ
Mais la je trouve que tu vas trĂšs loin
I understand you and so far you're the only one who's had an objective speech
it says a lot about who you are and I appreciate that. And I know I'm going a long way. In life a man makes choices. But these choices, good or bad, always have an impact, good or bad for the person who made them. Thank you for your intervention, good luck and all the best to you
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenWissam.Mn: Je ne suis pas d'accord avec ton ultimatum !
Déjà , tu n'es pas objectif car tu devrais déjà nous poser tes questions ou tes demandes.
Aymeric propose un jeu gratuit avec l'option vf store qui n'est pas obligatoire. Certe le mdm est mal qualibré par moment. Mais c'est déjà trÚs bien..
Donc ce n'est pas la peine d'entraĂźner pas les managers en guerre avec toi surtout pour une cause que l'on connaĂźt pas.
Utilise le Vfo pour toutes demandes et si les administrateurs ne répondent pas, les
Thank you very much for your comment. It's your way of seeing and doing things, and it's respectable. I appreciate that too. In fact, the game is free and the fact that I'm paying extra is a support for it and is not compulsory. But if I do it, it's because I choose to do it. In the same way, my message may or may not be taken into consideration. Everyone is free. And if everyone thinks I was wrong to do this, too bad, but it's the choice I made, whether it's good or bad. Thanks to you and enjoy the game too
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Alex-AJA |
3 mÄned sidenHydilik |
3 mÄned sidenI have to admit that the way it's presented is not good
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenHydilik: Je dois avouer que la maniÚre dont c'est exposé n'est pas bonne ; dans un autre sens, je te rejoins sur des points qui me posent problÚme.
Aymeric fonctionne par passes, sauf que le jeu a évolué et maintenant le VfStore existe.
Aujourd'hui, des bugs se produisent et il y a une certaine impuissance chez les administrateurs Ă cause du store.Faire des pauses quand on est sur un jeu totalement gratuit, je le comprends. Il faut relativiser..
Maintenant, il y a des abonnements. Bien conscien
Thank you for what you've just said. I agree that the way I presented it poses a problem, and is perhaps not correct for everyone, but I did it because I'm not in the habit of following a movement just because everyone else is following the same movement. Thank you for your courageous intervention, even if nothing changes. Good luck and enjoy the game
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thomas33980 |
3 mÄned sidenIt's because of the franc-macons , surely they who hacked aymeric's account ...
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villa |
3 mÄned sidenAlex-AJA: Moi je propose une pétition contre cette pétition.
I propose a petition for your petition
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenvilla: Moi je propose une pétition pour ta pétition
It's also an idea. Good way to get public opinion. I'm all for it. Thank you and enjoy the game
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Alex-AJA |
3 mÄned sidenvilla: Moi je propose une pétition pour ta pétition
I refuse!
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villa |
3 mÄned sidenAlex-AJA: Je refuse !
It'll make a new petition đ
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Thom'es |
3 mĂ„ned sidenI'm still waiting for condition 2 of your agreement .... đ€
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Jallow |
3 mĂ„ned sidenThom'es: J'attends toujours la condition 2 de ton entente frĂ©rot .... đ€
Ah shit đ
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Kirikou |
3 mÄned sidenMockery is forbidden and punishable under the game's internal rules, or have I misunderstood the rules?
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bluethunders26 |
3 mÄned sidenArazosv: Ca va que tu ne risques pas de boycott grand chose avec tes autres comptes, tu n'utilises pas ton argent pour obtenir des étoiles mais les quémandes aux autres
Do you have any proof to send us about this accusation? Because making unjustified accusations (without proof) is punishable by law
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenbluethunders26: Tu as des preuves à nous envoyer sur cette accusation ?? Car faire des accusations injustifiées ( sans preuve ) est sanctionnable
So much the better. But if it turns out that this accuser has made this accusation just to discredit me, and that he persists and is not punished, I will do everything I can to ensure that the rules of this game are the same for everyone, even those who have been admitted. I've known the game since 2008, and I know and have seen a lot of things. You're starting to know me now. But one thing's for sure: I'm kind, helpful and I'm a big fan of helping, sharing and teamwork. I started this petition to try and shake things up. If some people want to use this to harm me or to put pressure on innocent people who haven't done anything wrong, believe me I swear that heads will roll. There are over 2,000 active accounts and not all of them follow the rules, but they are exempt from punishment. That's normal because leniency is allowed. But if you want to go far, don't worry, I don't care if my account is blocked.
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Drezzo35 |
3 mĂ„ned sidenMmmh that's a lot of gossip for not much ... ,đ€
Just so you know, if you really want perfect fairness, especially when it comes to penalties, why not send the admins your precious info directly ???? Because that's clearly putting another layer on for nothing
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Unagi |
3 mĂ„ned sidenGuyaloboue: Tant mieux. Mais s'il s avĂšre que cet accusateur Ă lancer cet accusation juste pour me discrĂ©diter, qu il persiste et qu il n est pas sanctionnĂ©, je mettrais tous en Ćuvre et je ferais mon possible pour que le rĂšglement de ce jeu soit le mĂȘme pour tous le monde , mĂȘme pour les admis. Je connais le jeu depuis 2008, je sais et j ai vue beaucoup de choses. Vous commencez Ă me connaĂźtre maintenant. Mais une chose, Je suis gentil, serviable et j ai un gros penchant pour l entraide, le part
An excellent idea for a petition
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Guyaloboue |
3 mĂ„ned sidenDrezzo35: Mmmh ça fait bcp de ragots pour pas grand chose ... ,đ€
Pour ta gouverne si tu souhaites réellement une équité parfaite notamment pour les sanctions , pourquoi ne pas mp directement les admins avec tes précieuses info ???? Parce que là c'est clairement remettre une couche pour rien
Thank you for your comment. I'm not here for fairness. I'm here to ensure that the game runs smoothly at all times, and also to know that my contribution is helping to improve it. Even though I know that I'm not obliged to pay, I'm making the choice to pay in the hope that it will help Aymeric to move the game forward. Thank you very much. Good luck and enjoy the game
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zejl |
3 mÄned sidenFrankly, there must be around 600 of us, maybe 1000, who are really active on VF (it would be interesting to have the real figures, by the way), and of that number we have around a hundred players who will put in an average of 30 euros over the year, so at any rate the VF store should bring in 3000 euros over the year, minus of course tax, so the gain shouldn't be very high. In short, you have to look at it as a hobby that brings in just a little money, so you can't expect permanent aciduite from the designer, and I think most of us are aware of that.
This game has been saved above all thanks to all the admins who volunteer their time to maintain the game, many thanks to them.
In short, all that to say that there's no way of exerting pressure, you have to take the game as it is and live with it.
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Guyaloboue |
3 mĂ„ned sidenzejl: Franchement on doit ĂȘtre genre 600 max peut ĂȘtre 1000 a ĂȘtre vraiment actifs sur Vf (ce serait intĂ©ressant d avoir les vrais chiffres d ailleurs), sur ce nombre on a quoi une centaine de joueurs qui vont mettre en moyenne 30 euros sur l annĂ©e, donc a tous casser le VF store doit rapporter 3000 euros sur l annĂ©e moins Ă©videmment les impĂŽts le gain ne doit pas ĂȘtre trĂšs Ă©levĂ©. Bref il faut le prendre comme un hobby qui rapporte juste un peu, on ne peut donc pas en attendre une aciduite
Thank you and I partly agree with you. When you offer a free service to people, you need volunteers at some point. Not necessarily, but it's useful. I don't doubt the goodwill of those admitted. What's more, you also need money to keep the service going. But a free service doesn't mean it has to be of poor quality just because it's free, especially if it's subsidised by a few players. I'm not asking for everything to be perfect, but at least for information on what can and can't be fixed, even if it means making an appeal for donations to improve certain aspects of the game, because I know I can all play a part in it, simply because I've met friends in this game despite everything. You can always fix things, but only if you want them to be fixed, unless you think everything's fine. Thank you, good luck and enjoy the game
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenZeus: Oui tout va bien
Good for you. Thank you
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenimage](https://i.imgur.com/7yg6Zps.jpeg)
My contribution over the last 2 months. And I did it willingly and with pleasure
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Zeus |
3 mÄned sidenGuyaloboue:
Ma contribution sur les 2 derniers mois. Et je l ai fais de bon cĆur et avec plaisir
And?
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Arazosv |
3 mÄned sidenGuyaloboue:
Ma contribution sur les 2 derniers mois. Et je l ai fais de bon cĆur et avec plaisir
Via your screen and the VFStore activity, I can see that you haven't respected the line that's written in red when you donate to the cartel,
"Donations to cartels are not permitted:
- In the event of an imminent cessation of play on your part
- If you have received financial assistance from the VF Store"
Knowing that the last donation you made went straight to another account đ€
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenThe donation you mentioned was made 7 days ago. Then a day later I went to the vf store to get the financial help. Even though this isn't the subject, I'm replying to you. I'm not afraid, but choose the battle you want to wage against me carefully and don't miss out. I won't thank you because you're off topic.
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Arazosv |
3 mĂ„ned sidenYou didn't just donate once to your deal, you have 3 seasons to wait before you can donate under normal circumstances, so the fight is well chosen đ
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Guyaloboue |
3 mÄned sidenIn that case, I'll leave it to you to go and see who's been admitted.
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Nivek87 |
3 mÄned sidenGive it a whirl... You look like you've found something great!
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Morten34 |
3 mĂ„ned sidenGuyaloboue: Bonjour Ă tous , amis, ennemis, collĂšgues, joueurs, admis. C est en toutes libertĂ© que je prend la parole ici. Nous jouons Ă un jeu censĂ© nous divertir, nous rassembler ou pas, peu importe nos divergences d opinions. J ai conscience que le message que je lance ,pour certains est une perte de temps. Pour d autres, je n imagine mĂȘme pas ce qu ils disent. Aymeric se connecte souvent mais ne rĂ©pond pas question qu on pose Ă ces admis. Pour moi, Ce n est pas bien. MĂȘme si ces admis sont c
I have to say that I'm shocked by your call for a boycott of the VFstore. First of all, no one is obliged to use the VFstore. The game is and remains free. For your information, the admins are all volunteers. We get no benefit from being admins, and I mean NO benefit. Thanks to the work of volunteer admins, the game continues to run smoothly and remains free. The VFstore is only a plus and offers a few advantages for those who put a little money into the game. But nothing and nobody forces you to put money into the game. You're personally free not to put any money into the game (or to stop doing so), for whatever reason. But opening a topic to encourage other managers to stop putting money into the game is a serious matter and should be punished. If you don't like the game (or no longer do), you're free to stop it. But to launch a boycott of the VFstore is, in my opinion, serious, unseemly and inappropriate. And contrary to what you say, Aymeric is there to fix the bugs that are pointed out to him by the admins or via the forum in the bugs section. It's just his choice to have very little involvement in the forum, but he's there to fix bugs and respond to admins when necessary. So your call for a boycott is totally inappropriate and punishable. I'm closing this topic.
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