To show you my peace of mind, because some people must really think that we're being paid to kick the bucket for them when the game doesn't work. Who know how to find you when it suits them, and know how to want to shoot you when it's the hype.
I invite you to vote very quietly until 00:00 this Friday.
And I'll respect your choice.
The VF community didn't have the right to elect me to this position because it was proposed by Morten and validated by A45.
Now I'm offering him the choice of keeping me on or asking me to step down.

Good evening and there's no need to talk about one or other admins. It's my case that's on trial

Interesting, will the vote be carried out for all current admins?

But I'm convinced you can read!

Socrate: Pour vous montrez ma toute tranquillité, parce que certains doivent réellement pensé qu’on est rémunéré pour se casser le Q pour eux, lorsque jeu dysfonctionne. Qui savent te trouver quand ça les arranges, et savent vouloir te descendre quand c’est la hype.
Je vous invite très tranquillement à voter jusqu’à ce vendredi 00h
Et je respecterais votre choix.
La communauté VF n’a pas eu le droit de m’elire à ce poste car il ma été proposé par Morten et validé par A45.
Maintenant je lui offre le c...

Yes

However, we don't judge individual cases, but the work of a group when that group is made up of 2 LR who defend a 3rd, and if that 3rd is a lambda LR with no history.
I'm sorry to be wary of total impartiality. But I understand your approach, it's very commendable. That's why I voted against, even though I'm individually in favour of your work and your contributions, which I've often appreciated.
I voted against the current composition of the admins. That's all, nothing personal.

Socrate: Pourtant je suis convaincu que tu sais lire !

I'd like to think that this topic isn't trying to put out a fire that seems to be aimed at your colleague. You know very well that your image is appreciated by the community.

I'm not putting out any fires.
My judgement is also called into question.
So I'll leave it up to those of you who want to make yourselves heard by means other than posts that come to nothing.
Here you can enjoy yourself
If the community wants me to go back to being a simple player, I'll do it, if they want me to stay, I'll do it without repercussions.

I said yes, but my only wish is that you'd give up this thankless job for a thankless commu, for the rest, same message as for Jeff 😘

Socrate, it's a bit difficult to vote without concrete information.
What is the context? What are you accused of? Do you want to be an admin? If so, what are your plans and vision for the role?
The real question is what you really want for the good of the game ;)

I'm happy to change my vote in view of Jeff's resignation. Courage to you socrate.

Take a good look, Sosso: yesterday you were there, today they'll be washing your feet.

I'm more used to commenting on this sort of thing. But it's time for those for whom the role of admin encroaches on their private lives to distance themselves from their duties. This vote you're proposing, So, I take it as "I want to continue but only if I have the community behind me" and that's commendable on your part. I hope you'll come out on top in the game.

It's worrying that some players feel their personal lives have been destabilised by a game. It's just as worrying that respected admins whose honesty has never been called into question are so easily destabilised because the boat is rocking. It's also proof that they need to take a step back and get back to the basics of the game. It's not normal, not healthy to say the least, for this voluntary work to be an ordeal.

It's also worrying that when certain players are worried, we get the impression that the whole community is in trouble. But that's just the tip of the iceberg, because the vast silent majority of this community hasn't called anyone to account, hasn't questioned anyone, and just wants to play on an equal footing with everyone else.

Even so, I understand why some admins have taken a step back. When you're too honest, you're bound to get personally involved in your mission, and that's where you go wrong. You can say what you like about Aymeric, but his detachment and the coldness of his decisions are equalled only by the fairness and simplicity of his decisions. Dura lex, sed lex.

I hope that the community will show its support for the admins who, silently and on a daily basis, keep this game playable despite the fact that there are those who try to find all kinds of loopholes and tricks to win. The majority just want to play.

I hope that some of you will realise just how lucky you are to have people who are willing to give up their unpaid time to advance and help the community as far as possible with the means at their disposal.

Whatever the membership agreement.

You should all resign, and he'll see what a mess it'll be without unpaid admins!
I voted "resign" just to validate my sentence!

I put resignation, I would like to see vf without admi.

minadinho: J’ai mis démission,j’aimerais bien voir vf sans admi.

Ohh the crash 😅

You forget that this was the case at one time and that the entire community had asked for the return of the admin or it was Galy (if I remember correctly) who took over the position following this.

There was Girondins before :p

Socrate I wanted to vote for you to stay and with my current blood alcohol level I clicked next to it 🤣
So -1 for resigning and +1 for staying 🙏

For your own good, resign!

It reminds me of the days of mamie fiesta thelooser etc. It's not making us any younger.
I have nothing against you, Socrate, except that you should stop bidding on the young people I want.
Je trouve que toutes ces resissions ca devient gênant je vote pour que tout le monde reste sur le jeu et comme admins (kiki président je sais ) allez on on arrête tout ca et on se reprend bonne journée

In my opinion, the administrators are doing a good job. I don't know all the cases, but thank you to them and, above all, keep up the good work.

It's not a question of resigning or staying, but of respecting procedures. If you're a LR, you can't rule on problems related to a LR to avoid any conflict of interest. Similarly, when I was an administrator, I didn't rule on matters related to a member of my cartel. That's the problem with this case. Many of you in the anti-cheating community are part of the same cartel, and the fact that there is once again, as I understand it is often the case, a case involving one of your members, where you give the impression that you are defending that person at all costs, poses a serious problem of legitimacy. And don't tell me it's the LR, you'd be in another agreement for a case concerning a member of your agreement, it's the same thing.
That's where the problem lies. In the eyes of the community you don't appear to be integral and that's a real problem, because it inevitably generates conflicts of interest and suspicions of favouritism. And this affair is the last straw in a problem that has been dragging on for some time.
You have to be aware of that.
I won't be taking part in the vote, I find it ridiculous and pointless. Why don't you question yourselves?
The field of anti-cheating is the most thankless job of any VF, I know, I've been there, even if it's a bit old now. And the slightest mistake can take on huge proportions. What you have to do is manage to keep an overview, and not have your head in the handlebars all the time.
I also think there's a communication problem, which is nothing new. Before, we knew why there were sanctions or not, we all knew what to expect. And there was a scale of penalties for each offence. This avoided unnecessary tension and any suspicion of favouritism, because everyone was on the same footing.
Rather than wondering whether you should resign or not, try instead to reform your system, to renew it so that this sort of thing doesn't happen again.

Each agreement in the game should choose a representative from its midst to propose to the anti-cheating admin team. I don't know how this thing should be set up, but maybe there should be a team of 3/4 of the most experienced anti-cheating admins and a dozen or so other members from various cartels (with an admin function) who would be consulted to judge matters inherent in the games. More (or less) debate on the transparency of admins and a healthier game.

At the time when Morten applied as an admin, some people forced him to leave his agreement, so I'd say my feeling would be to do the same with all admins.
Aymeric a une entente, tu veux être admin paf tu es membre de l'entente a aymeric (je sais que cette idée va faire parler mais au moins plus de soucis d'intérêt d'entente)

Not necessarily, but I know that Fiesta would never have allowed there to be so many anti-cheating administrators from the same agreement. I'm talking about her because I was part of her team, and for me she was one of the best VF administrators I've ever known.

Christopheetlucy: Pas forcément mais je sais que Fiesta n'aurait jamais permis qu'il y ait autant d'administrateurs anti triche de la même entente. Je parle d'elle car j'ai fait partie de son équipe, et pour moi, c'était l'une des meilleures administratrices de VF que j'ai connu.

That's for sure, grandma fiesta and thelooser, what a time!

Personally, I don't care what kind of agreement the admins have. If their way of doing things and their decisions are objective, that's fine.
You can be friends with a manager without being part of their agreement.
I think there are managers who remain impartial whether they're part of an agreement or not.

Socrate seems to me to be one of them, at least I hope so. That's why I voted yes.
If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry I voted yes.
There are other managers who have clearly shown that they're not.

kiki-sainté: Ça c est sur mamie fiesta et thelooser sacré époque

I didn't have the opportunity to work with him. It was after Thelooser's departure that I became a director.

Christopheetlucy: Je n'ai pas eu l'occasion de travailler avec lui. C'est d'ailleurs suite au départ de Thelooser que je suis devenu administrateur

I miss a hell of a guy. He was my dad on vf and he advised me on a lot of things on and off the game.
I only knew him on the game, by the way.

kiki-sainté: Ça c est sur mamie fiesta et thelooser sacré époque

My recruiter and mentor 😁😁😁

Socrate: Pour vous montrez ma toute tranquillité, parce que certains doivent réellement pensé qu’on est rémunéré pour se casser le Q pour eux, lorsque jeu dysfonctionne. Qui savent te trouver quand ça les arranges, et savent vouloir te descendre quand c’est la hype.
Je vous invite très tranquillement à voter jusqu’à ce vendredi 00h
Et je respecterais votre choix.
La communauté VF n’a pas eu le droit de m’elire à ce poste car il ma été proposé par Morten et validé par A45.
Maintenant je lui offre le c...

I vote for you to stay.
You do your job very well, you communicate and talk normally, asking for information when you need it.
And when we need you, you're available.
You're an admin who's not there to be a cowboy, but a good admin who's there for the community.

So automatically you have my support.

Ditto :)

Lio wasn't bad either after Haybi's team's nonsense lol

bluethunders26: Ma recruteuse et mon mentor 😁😁😁

Yes, at a time when we used to joke a lot about vf MCs and fofos

But anyway, that's not what this post is about.

Christopheetlucy: Mais bon bref, c'est pas le sujet du post.

It's true but nostalgia softens morals 🙂

Cry My kiki 😭😭🤣🤣🤣

michbou: Pleur Mon kiki 😭😭🤣🤣🤣

Ah yes, I could have said that too

kiki-sainté: C est vrai mais la nostalgie adoucis les mœurs 🙂

It's true, I have a certain nostalgia for those days, and I particularly enjoyed my work as an anti-cheating administrator. I still have fond memories of those days, even though I was threatened with death by a cheat who was giving us a hard time at the time lol.

Christopheetlucy: C'est vrai, j'ai une certaine nostalgie de cette époque, et j'avais particulièrement aimé mon travail d'administrateur anti triche. J'en garde de bons souvenirs même si j'ai été menacé de mort par un tricheur qui nous donnait du fil à retordre à l'époque lol

My friend from the mc? The one who insulted everyone but me, he talked to me like nothing was wrong at night, I was hallucinating every time, and when I asked him why he was cheating it was just for fun.

As a result, everyone votes in favour, but when Socrates finds that there has been no cheating in his soul and conscience, everyone criticises 🤡

Alexandre67310: Du coup tout le monde vote pour mais quand Socrate constate qu’il n’y a pas eu triche en son âme et conscience tout le monde critique 🤡

Everyone sees things as they wish, but there was definitely cheating.
For me it's a vote for nothing.
I don't care if he stays or goes, it's absurd to have so many admins playing games in one day.
Moi je, moi je ....blablablabla
Force a morten .bisous

junior: Chacun voie comme il veut mais il y as bien eu triche .
Pour moi c'est faire un vote pour rien
Après qu'il reste ou qu'il parte je m'en cogne ,faire autant de gamineries des admin en une journée est absurde
Moi je ,moi je ....blablabla
Force a morten .bisous

So in that case, you'd have to hunt down every manager who's ever bought a player from the store in this way. And ban everyone

Impartiality is important

Ced90: Donc dans ce cas, il faut faire la chasse de tout les managers qui ont déjà acheté un joueur au store de cette manière. Et bannir tout le monde

L’impartialité, c’est important

There is measure
A player bought with this cheating yes sanction to that measure
A business made with this cheating yes sanction +++

In any case, as far as I'm concerned, and I hope so somewhere, this case will be closed by Aymeric, who will decide on the penalty applied, and no one will be able to go back on it.
Cheating on VF has always existed, and it's sometimes difficult to get to the bottom of it. But that's another debate.

Alexandre67310: Du coup tout le monde vote pour mais quand Socrate constate qu’il n’y a pas eu triche en son âme et conscience tout le monde critique 🤡

What does this have to do with anything?

90% of the community agrees that our admins do a good job. We thank them because without them there would be no game.

That doesn't mean they always make the right decisions.

It still makes me laugh to see some people who used to spit on jex, mezut...er teddy (well, there are so many of them that I don't remember) come here to defend the indefensible just because you can't admit that you screwed up recruiting the king of scams.

I'm not getting into a big debate. A vote.

David59: Quel est le rapport?

90% de la communauté est d'accord pour dire que nos admins font du bon travail. Nous les remercions car sans eux il n y aurait pas de jeu.

Cela ne veut pas dire qu'ils prennent toujours les bonnes décisions.

Ça me fait quand même bien rire de voir certains qui crachaient sur jex, mezut...euh teddy (enfin il y en a tellement que je ne sais plus)il y a encore quelques mois, venir défendre ici l'indéfendable juste car vous n'assumez pas avoir merder dans le recrutement d...

Please explain yourself in mp and leave the subject to its survey

David59: Quel est le rapport?

90% de la communauté est d'accord pour dire que nos admins font du bon travail. Nous les remercions car sans eux il n y aurait pas de jeu.

Cela ne veut pas dire qu'ils prennent toujours les bonnes décisions.

Ça me fait quand même bien rire de voir certains qui crachaient sur jex, mezut...euh teddy (enfin il y en a tellement que je ne sais plus)il y a encore quelques mois, venir défendre ici l'indéfendable juste car vous n'assumez pas avoir merder dans le recrutement d...

Of course not, we're the first to say (and to him in particular) that a person who cheats gets the boot.
As it stands (with or without LR admins), that's not the case (4 or 2 votes to 1, your choice).
If Aymeric decides that it is, then no worries. But everyone takes

How did recruitment go wrong?
4 out of 5 admins didn't find him guilty. 2 to 1 if you remove the two LRs.

The only one who voted differently was the one who swore several times to get rid of him no matter what. And now, his pride hurt that the others dared to have a different opinion, he's leaving, voluntarily soaping the board of his fellow admins.

Now A45 is going to deal with it, I hope; and it could go either way; he's punishing Teddy, he's punishing all those who've been buying from the store for months (it's going to sting, we'll see who comes crying) ..............or punishing no-one.