Good evening everyone,

Following the problems that there was with the loans and reminders of loan as well as the uses of the event for the endurance, the MDJ will deactivate the function of reminder of loan.

bluethunders26: Bonsoir a tous ,

Suites aux problèmes qu' il y a eu avec les prêts et rappels de prêt ainsi que les utilisations de l évènement pour l endurance , le MDJ va désactiver la fonction de rappel de prêt .

Similarly, the club that has the player on loan can't cancel it on its own?

bluethunders26: Bonsoir a tous ,

Suites aux problèmes qu' il y a eu avec les prêts et rappels de prêt ainsi que les utilisations de l évènement pour l endurance , le MDJ va désactiver la fonction de rappel de prêt .

What if we lend to another to train and the latter stops the game???
The loaned player will then fall behind 😕

k3vin59218: De meme pour le club ayant le joueur preté , il ne pourra pas l annuler de son coté?

in principle, no, he won't be able to

Levi: Et si on prête à un autre pour former et que ce dernier arrête le jeu ??
Le joueur prêté prendra donc un retard 😕

yes, it's the risks, by stopping, it won't lead to any loan agreement.

bluethunders26: oui c est les aleas , en arretant il n enfrain aucun accord de pret

Fine

bluethunders26: oui c est les aleas , en arretant il n enfrain aucun accord de pret

In such cases, could the admins recall them and send them back to the owner's club?

When will VF be stable? Transfers are authorised at 100k but we no longer have the right to call back loans.

Frankly, the game is going in all directions and I wonder if the mdj understands what he's doing.

bluethunders26: Bonsoir a tous ,

Suites aux problèmes qu' il y a eu avec les prêts et rappels de prêt ainsi que les utilisations de l évènement pour l endurance , le MDJ va désactiver la fonction de rappel de prêt .

Hello,

Quick question, is it possible to "defer" the ban, say 2-3 days? To allow legit players to get their players back if things aren't going well?
Or has the function already been deactivated and some people have it in their bones?

Salut non mais sérieux la c'est la fin des prêts,,a cause d'idiots qui trichent les autres sont punis encore une fois quand est ce va finir de prendre pour les autres?
If you want to destroy the game, do it once and for all because it's becoming unpleasant to play a management game that wants to resemble reality and half the things don't.
In real life, if the player doesn't play, we cancel the loan, the trick is to cancel short term loans, which last at least 3 weeks.
In other words, if we don't want to go beyond 32 players, we're obliged to sell players who are in our team that we wanted to keep in order to bring back players that we want to sell, where's the logic in that?
You're killing the game, thank you for spoiling our fun.
Clean up after the cheats, not the good players who don't bend any rules, cancel the event that earns a point and everything's sorted.
In my opinion I find it ridiculous to pay so much for an endu point, I never use it, the only times I have used it was for training players outside my agreement.
I'm very disappointed, sorry I had to say it.

Deactivating the loan reminder is really not a good way of putting an end to the schemes of profiteers who, as with many of the game's functions, hijack certain features.
As usual, all the clubs are losing out on an interesting, not to say necessary, game option because of the 1% of cheats who are easily identifiable.

I think it would have been wiser to provide the admins with a tool that would allow them to view the loan reminders each day and identify the abusive reminders in the list, such as if I do a physical training course and then lend my player to a multi-account who does a physical training course again the next day and I get my player back the day after that.

Meanwhile, donations of players or money via fictitious 100k sales or federations with 5 players from the same club or 10 from the same agreement continue unabated.

It's radical, but it solves several problems at once 👌🏻

And the honest players are still paying the price... How painful.

Wouldn't it have been simpler just to set a disuasive fee, like 5M, to prevent abuse, rather than being so radical as to generate even more abuses?

So that the +2 is reserved for the most affluent?
It's radical, but at least there will be no jealousy.

There's no point, unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't work on loan anymore. This season, the only way for players to have 2 training courses was to transfer them.

Besides, the loan patch was badly set up, with some players not taking the course at all... 😅

After that, radical decisions mean you don't have to think about other solutions. That's what we've had at VF from the start. But, in the end, you have to blame those who pull the strings the most. You know how it's going to end after a while.

Next step to correct those who have been doing endurance training during IS convocations, for several seasons: abolish IS! 👏

Jason: VF sera stable quand ? On autorise les transferts a 100k mais on a plus le droit au rappel de prêt.

Franchement le jeu par dans tous les sens et je me demande si le mdj comprend ce qu'il fait .

The fact that this function is disabled is due to those who took advantage of it to make loans to do several preparation courses at the beginning of the season (when only one is possible) to make +2 +3 in endurance.

Wouldn't the most effective solution be to make a patch that detects whether there are any players on the list who have already benefited from a training camp in the same season, so that all the players on loan from the partner club take minus 1 when they start their training camp? So instead of gaining a + 1 point, the player would gain 0 points over the season.
I'm sure the clever ones would think twice before setting up a double or triple clinic!

myforsans: Le plus efficace ne serait-il pas de faire un patch qui détecte si dans la liste il y a déjà des joueurs déjà bénéficiaires d'un stage dans la même saison et que cela ait comme conséquence que l'ensemble de tous les joueurs en prêt du club complice prenne moins 1 quand il lancera son stage, donc au lieu de gagner un + un point, le joueur en gagnerait 0 au final sur la saison.
Je suis sûr que les petits malins y regarderaient à deux fois avant de faire une manip. de double ou triple stage !

Yes, but it takes a bit of time. Deleting a function, less so. So there you go.

So much the better, and come and see the cartels that have had a field day come crying to us here ....

Hello,

For the record, that's how it was for a very long time (#forum?topic=82335), and the loan reminder appeared what ... 7 or 8 years ago (?).
The rule prohibiting the purchase of a player for 1 season is there to counter any disguised loans.

In short ... Love is in the loan ;)

Hello, less than that. I started about 5 years ago, and loan reminders didn't exist. The fact that you could cancel a loan when you were a borrower even less so. There have been problems with this last point since it was introduced.

bluethunders26: Le fait que cette fonction soit désactiver est dû à ceux qui en ont profiter pour faire des prêts afin de faire plusieurs stage de préparation en début de saison ( alors qu un seul est possible ) afin de faire des +2 +3 en endurance

I don't suppose Aymeric will change his mind, but would it be possible to suggest a shorter loan period or a choice of half season (28 days) or full season (56 days)?

minadinho: Tant mieux , et venir voir les ententes qui en ont pris plein le nez venir pleurer ici ….

I didn't know about this!

You see, I didn't even have to quote you ;)

Are we sure it's not possible to run several endurance courses via fictitious free transfers? To avoid just moving the problem around...

minadinho: Tu vois, même pas eu besoin de te cité ;)

Don't hesitate to show the proof ;) you seem to know all about it for once...

pieutte: Hésites pas a montrer les preuves ;) tu as l air bien au courant pour une fois..

Know about what? I don't follow the game any more. I haven't even done the endurance event to tell you the truth.
But seeing your comment and some of the posts I've read, I've quickly understood.
Why come and provoke me, knowing that if you get fined you're going to go and cry to the admi once again to get your winnings back?
Never go further than you can go.
In this case your room for manoeuvre is very small, if not non-existent, so avoid the slightest provocation if you don't take responsibility behind it.
Bizzzz

@pieutte
@minadinho

Please settle/continue your dispute by PM.
There will be no further warnings.

How to take a useless measure. With price deregulation, all you have to do to get round this ban is buy and sell.
Isn't it possible to simply block the taking of stamina at 1 via the vent? Rather than annoying the whole community yet again with a solution that doesn't address the problem.

Pierabou: Comment prendre une mesure inutile. Avec la dérégulation des prix il suffit de faire des achats reventes pour contourner cette interdiction.
Ce n'est pas possible de tout simplement bloquer la prise d'endurance a 1 via l'évent ? Plutôt que d'embêter toute la communauté une fois de plus avec une solution qui ne répond pas au problème.

The solution solves the problem.
It stings everyone but at least more profit.
Either you leave it and the same people gorge themselves and they who normally train are penalised or you cut everything short and everyone is at the same point.
Unfortunately, the best solution is the second.

minadinho: La solution résolu le problème .
Elle pique tout le monde mais au moins plus de profit .
Ou tu laisse et les même se gavent et eux qui forment normalement sont pénaliser ou tu coupe court à tout et tout le monde au même point .
Malheureusement la meilleur solution reste la seconde.

You can always do it via transfers.

Pierabou: Tu peux toujours le faire via des transferts.

Also but much more conspicuous.
The problem came up again after the loan, so of course he's hitting it.

minadinho: Aussi mais bien plus voyant .
Le soucis et remonté suite au prêt donc forcément il tape dessus .

Except that it doesn't solve the problem, it just annoys the whole community.
If some people want to abuse internships, they'll find a way to do it in the time it takes to get past 1 event.

Pierabou: Sauf que du coup il régle pas le problème mais embêté juste toute la commu.
Si certains veulent abuser des stages, ils trouveront bien un moyen temps que ce n'est simplement pas bloqué au delà de 1 event.

It's not the right solution for me either.
But at least he's reacting ....not in the right way, but he's doing it.

I wonder why we're wasting our time with this game ....

Could this be a sign that Aymeric will be back with a bang? It would be the ideal time for him to communicate and give his directives to the administrators to put the whole mess back in order. It's not forbidden to turn back Aymeric... A change of mind on this total freedom of transfers would be more than necessary...

villa: je me demande pourquoi on perd notre temps avec ce jeu à force ....

We can without wanting that to us (community)
All these restrictions are our fault, if there were no bad screws we would not have bad reforms.

Every time I read 'the clubs that are gorging themselves

Could someone send me an example of 17/25 players who have become anomalies thanks to these courses?

I'm in favour of a ranking with the names of the cheats and the amount of the fines, that would calm things down a bit! Or not !

sora02: À chaque fois je lis « les clubs qui se gavent »

Quelqu’un pourrait m’envoyer un exemple de joueurs de 17/25 en anomalie grâce à ces stages ?

You put in search the parameters you want, a 21-year-old player with this normal ng compared to his potential and 40 in endurance ....

Jeffus tuchuss: Tu mets dans rechercher les paramètres que tu veux , un joueurs de 21 ans avec ça ng normale par rapport à son potentiel et 40 en endurance ….

I can't think of any, I guess I'm just being naive. Do you have any concrete examples?

Next improvement: Not being able to loan out more players than your squad allows, or having the right to a squad of 40 players as a matter of course.

small question: is it normal that I always have an icon to call back my loans? because it's hard to understand this new feature due to cheating, but this option is very useful when you sell a player and the young loan player has to return to his club in the b team.

I think we need to wait for compliance.

I finally understand how some people manage to make players with extraordinary stamina...

Jeffus tuchuss: Tu mets dans rechercher les paramètres que tu veux , un joueurs de 21 ans avec ça ng normale par rapport à son potentiel et 40 en endurance ….

I've just done all the youngsters from 35 to 45 endu to 80+ potential.
The player with the least ground to make up is him: #joueur?jid=605142&progression
He has 128 pts, which is 64ng vs 70 progression.
If the trainer has used training courses, the result is not astonishing.

After that ... you don't just have to look at the youngsters to see the trickery, a blocked club proved to us that it was possible to do it with any player. 55 endurance in 15 days is child's play... it's all a question of means...